[Samba] Can't restore from GPFS snapshots, disk_free error

Ian CLANCY ian.clancy at valeo.com
Mon Oct 21 02:53:16 MDT 2013

Hi Johnathan,
I've been following your reply's to Eric's GPFS Snapshot question with
interest as i'm currently testing a Samba GPFS CTDB setup .
I have a working test system but am curious as to what "gotchas" there are
to running such a system in production ?.
Can you share the benefit of your experience for the list ?.
Thanks in advance

Ian Clancy
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On 17 October 2013 22:26, Jonathan Buzzard <jonathan at buzzard.me.uk> wrote:

> On 17/10/13 18:49, Eric Chris Garrison wrote:
>> Thank you for the suggestions and advice, Jonathan.  We will try out
>> the snapshot options you mention.
>> How onerous are snapshots on a prod system?
> When it goes wrong you are looking at file system where basically
> *nothing* happens till you restart the node that is trying to get a
> quiescent lock. Basically your file system is undergoing a denial of
> service.
> The advice from IBM was basically "don't do that" unless the file system
> is quiet. Of course given you are running a Samba server and you don't
> control your end users who could of course be doing anything at anytime,
> and especially in a research environment (they keep funny hours) that is
> not exactly helpful.
>  I think we're going to do
>> just once a day, in the wee hours when not much is going on. What
>> kind of problems do you see?
> How does 07:00 on a Saturday morning grab you? I would have thought that
> it would have been pretty quiet at that point, but guess what...
> My plan had been to take snapshots at 07:00, 10:00, 13:00 and 16:00 to
> give some roll back for files that got deleted/scrambled during the day
> which would otherwise not exist in the backup. Unless it has improved
> radically in GPFS 3.5 it is a no go in my experience.
>  How badly does it hang, for how long?
> Indefinitely, that is until the node attempting to get a quiescent lock is
> restarted. As you can imagine that is not funny.
>  What sorts of things aggravate that?
> Basically too much activity on the file system. Problem is you have
> absolutely no way of knowing in advance how much activity is going on.
> It looked lovely on my test system. Ran for months without issue. Put in
> production we had lockup's within a couple of days. When in hung at 07:00
> on a Saturday morning I turned it off.
> Note there are lots of gotchas running the GPFS/Samba/CTDB combination,
> and this is just one...
> JAB.
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