[Samba] Microsoft Outlook pst files unable to open or create

Doug Tucker tuckerd at lyle.smu.edu
Tue May 10 09:44:14 MDT 2011


Louis,

The only diff in the files are the netbios name and the mount path of
some of the shares.  They go to the same location on both boxes, but
that was one thing I changes as the old box the path is actually to a
symlink that points to what the new box has as the real path.  I wanted
to eliminate the symlink as a possible issue.  BUT, none of them are on
the user shares and that is where the issue is occuring.  Output:


diff old.txt new.txt 
7c7
< 	netbios name = AGENTSMITH
---
> 	netbios name = AGENTSMITH2
356c356
< 	path = /users/seasadm/webmastr/htdocs
---
> 	path = /www/htdocs
362c362
< 	path = /users/seasadm/webmastr/htdocs
---
> 	path = /www/htdocs
367c367
< 	path = /users/seasadm/webmastr/htdocs
---
> 	path = /www/htdocs
957c957
< 	path = /users/seasadm/webmastr/htdocs/cse
---
> 	path = /www/htdocs/cse
1176d1175
< 	printer admin = @lpadmin
1269c1268
< 	path = /users/seasadm/webmastr/htdocs/academic/downloads
---
> 	path = /www/htdocs/academic/downloads
1297c1296
< 	path = /users/seasadm/webmastr/htdocs/emis/cmmi5
---
> 	path = /www/htdocs/emis/cmmi5


On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 17:15 +0200, L.P.H. van Belle wrote:
> Hai Doug, 
> 
> The settings i suggested are for 3.5.x, they does not exist in 3.0 
> The "upgrade" problems are not really upgrade problems, but security fixes
> and
> new parameters in samba. 
> 
> Im not a centos user but i'll try to help. 
> 
> what you can do before the samba upgrade.
> on the old server
> testparm -v > old.txt
> and on the new server.
> testparm -v > new.txt
> 
> diff old.txt new.txt | less
> and compair.
> 
> The problems can come from the kernel. 
> If the 2.6.18 = 2.6.32+  then it could be. 
> cifs, locking etc has changed in the kernel. 
> 
> so in the diff look first for the locking parameters with the diff.
> 
> i suggest looking here also.
> http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/locking.html 
> search for Samba Oplocks Control
> Microsoft Outlook's personal folders (*.pst) react quite badly to oplocks. 
> If in doubt, disable oplocks and tune your system from that point. 
> so you can try that. 
> 
> good luck, 
> 
> Louis
> 
> 
> >-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> >Van: Doug Tucker [mailto:tuckerd at lyle.smu.edu] 
> >Verzonden: 2011-05-10 17:03
> >Aan: L.P.H. van Belle
> >CC: samba at lists.samba.org
> >Onderwerp: Re: [Samba] Microsoft Outlook pst files unable to 
> >open or create
> >
> >I am using the kernel supplied by centos for 5.5.  There is an updated
> >kernel that came out last week, I just haven't/can't reboot the box to
> >get it running.  But the other is not *old*, the upstream release of
> >what I am currently running is late March 2011.  Remember, RedHat ports
> >things of newer kernels into the release level number of the existing
> >ones.  So a 2.6.18 kernel is not really a 2.6.18 kernel, it's within a
> >patch level or 2 of being up to date with the official kernel from
> >kernel.org.  Them keeping the package numbers the same and 
> >adding a .0.3
> >etc to the end of it is things of many discussions good and bad.
> >
> >What "upgrade" problems are you referring to?  Our centos4 server has
> >and continues to have zero issues whatsoever.  The ONLY reason for
> >upgrading at all was the hardware is 4 years old and wanted to 
> >get it on
> >newer hardware.  While I was upgrading anyway, I chose to go with
> >centos5 because 4 is officially unsupported by RedHat 
> >(retiring, no more
> >patch releases) next February, so an upgrade would be necessary in a
> >year or so anyway.
> >
> >As of yum update last night, I am now already officially 
> >packaged centos
> >5.6:
> >  
> >cat /etc/redhat-release 
> >CentOS release 5.6 (Final)
> >
> >
> >The new kernel installed is: 
> >
> >kernel-2.6.18-238.9.1.el5 (note, same kernel version number, but went
> >from .238.5 to .238.9).
> >
> >I have 20 users or so with multiple mounts currently on it.  It's going
> >to be tough to get the downtime to upgrade to samba 3.5.  I will put in
> >the request for downtime now though and we'll see.  However, 
> >the centos4
> >box is running 3.0 also, and again, does not experience this issue.  
> >
> >Question.  The smb.conf settings you suggest.  Are these things I can
> >set in the current 3.0 or are they 3.5 only settings.  And, all shares
> >are nfs mounted on the backend, is it ok to put the other 2 in 
> >global or
> >do I have to edit that in all 50 or so shares plus user homes?
> >
> >Thanks so much for your effort here, I can't tell you how much it is
> >appreciated.  I have done everything I could think of for 2 weeks to no
> >avail.
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >
> >Doug
> >
> >
> >On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 16:33 +0200, L.P.H. van Belle wrote:
> >> hi, 
> >> 
> >> so your running centos 5.5. with outdated kernel in 64bit, 
> >with old samba.
> >> 3.0 of red hat.. 
> >> aargg.. 
> >> 
> >> i suggest, upgrade to samba 3.3 from centos and use the 
> >kernel suppied by
> >> centos for 5.5.
> >> I cant beleave that 2.6.18 is the "official" kernel of 
> >centos 5.5. lots has
> >> changed. 
> >> 
> >> also i'm betting your doing this because of the "upgrade" problems.. 
> >> ( as i had ) 
> >> 
> >> but even better.
> >> 
> >> upgrade your server to centos 5.6 
> >> install samba 3.5.4 from centos. 
> >> use the kernel from centos 5.6 ( i guess 2.6.32+ kernel) 
> >> 
> >> Use these settings in samba.
> >> in [global] 
> >>         host msdfs = No
> >>         unix extensions = No
> >> 
> >> set these settings on the share with the nfs mounted folder.
> >> ## share options, not for global.
> >> #       wide links = yes
> >> #       follow symlinks = yes
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Your mixing lots of old things here and that makes it hard 
> >to diagnose. 
> >> 
> >> Louis
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> >-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> >> >Van: Doug Tucker [mailto:tuckerd at lyle.smu.edu] 
> >> >Verzonden: 2011-05-10 16:23
> >> >Aan: L.P.H. van Belle
> >> >CC: samba at lists.samba.org
> >> >Onderwerp: Re: [Samba] Microsoft Outlook pst files unable to 
> >> >open or create
> >> >
> >> >Louis,
> >> >
> >> >A uname of the new server:
> >> >uname -a
> >> >Linux xxxxxx 2.6.18-238.5.1.el5 #1 SMP Fri Apr 1 18:41:58 EDT 2011
> >> >x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> >> >
> >> >I'm still running the 3.0 packaged binaries from Centos (redhat
> >> >derivative):
> >> >
> >> >rpm -qa | grep samba
> >> >samba-common-3.0.33-3.29.el5_6.2
> >> >samba-client-3.0.33-3.29.el5_6.2
> >> >samba-3.0.33-3.29.el5_6.2
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Yes, our samba server mounts a file server over NFS...both 
> >of them do.
> >> >
> >> >Sincerely,
> >> >
> >> >Doug
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 16:19 +0200, L.P.H. van Belle wrote:
> >> >> Hello Doug, 
> >> >> 
> >> >> I was running 3.0 before, recently upgraded to 3.5.6 
> >> >> kernel 2.6.26 also to 2.6.32 
> >> >> 
> >> >> I had no problems after the upgrade with outlook. 
> >> >> There were settings changed in samba, because of security issues.
> >> >> 
> >> >> are the pst file on nfs mounted folder of something like that. 
> >> >> 
> >> >> Which kernel are you running? 
> >> >> 
> >> >> Best regards, 
> >> >> 
> >> >> Louis
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> >-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> >> >> >Van: Doug Tucker [mailto:tuckerd at lyle.smu.edu] 
> >> >> >Verzonden: 2011-05-10 16:11
> >> >> >Aan: L.P.H. van Belle
> >> >> >CC: samba at lists.samba.org
> >> >> >Onderwerp: Re: [Samba] Microsoft Outlook pst files unable to 
> >> >> >open or create
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Thanks Louis.  I indeed have a samba 3.0.x server on Centos 
> >> >> >4.8 that has
> >> >> >no issues either.  The newly deployed Centos 5.5 with samba 
> >> >> >3.0.x is the
> >> >> >one Outlook cannot write to (yet other office applicatioins can).
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 16:08 +0200, L.P.H. van Belle wrote:
> >> >> >> Im running samba 3.5.6 ( debian ) with outlook 2003 pst in 
> >> >> >my users home
> >> >> >> folder, in hidden folder ( .email ) 
> >> >> >> no probems here, not even with the 4GB + pst files.. :-S 
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> Greetz, 
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> Louis
> >> >> >> >-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> >> >> >> >Van: tuckerd at lyle.smu.edu 
> >> >> >> >[mailto:samba-bounces at lists.samba.org] Namens Doug Tucker
> >> >> >> >Verzonden: 2011-05-10 16:02
> >> >> >> >Aan: mueller at tropenklinik.de
> >> >> >> >CC: samba at lists.samba.org
> >> >> >> >Onderwerp: Re: [Samba] Microsoft Outlook pst files unable to 
> >> >> >> >open or create
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Thank you for the reply, I was starting to think no one was 
> >> >> >out there!
> >> >> >> >An rpm query shows these packages:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >rpm -qa | grep samba
> >> >> >> >samba-common-3.0.33-3.29.el5_6.2
> >> >> >> >samba-client-3.0.33-3.29.el5_6.2
> >> >> >> >samba-3.0.33-3.29.el5_6.2
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Based on the fact that other apps have no problem, it 
> >points to
> >> >> >> >something weird with Outlook, BUT...outlook has no 
> >> >problem whatsover
> >> >> >> >with the other samba server..that's what throws me for a loop!
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 08:47 +0200, Daniel Müller wrote:
> >> >> >> >> What is your samba ver. Number????
> >> >> >> >> Do you use exchange??
> >> >> >> >> There are the same error like yours with ost files 
> >and caching.
> >> >> >> >> This seems a bug in outlook(2007-2010) not in samba!??
> >> >> >> >> I myself have a small group of Outlook-xp-pst files 
> >on samba 
> >> >> >> >3.5.8 without
> >> >> >> >> any errors. I have
> >> >> >> >> a redirection of domain-users to samba home share.
> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> -----------------------------------------------
> >> >> >> >> EDV Daniel Müller
> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> Leitung EDV
> >> >> >> >> Tropenklinik Paul-Lechler-Krankenhaus
> >> >> >> >> Paul-Lechler-Str. 24
> >> >> >> >> 72076 Tübingen
> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> Tel.: 07071/206-463, Fax: 07071/206-499
> >> >> >> >> eMail: mueller at tropenklinik.de
> >> >> >> >> Internet: www.tropenklinik.de
> >> >> >> >> -----------------------------------------------
> >> >> >> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >> >> >> >> Von: samba-bounces at lists.samba.org 
> >> >> >> >[mailto:samba-bounces at lists.samba.org] Im
> >> >> >> >> Auftrag von Doug Tucker
> >> >> >> >> Gesendet: Montag, 9. Mai 2011 16:05
> >> >> >> >> An: samba at lists.samba.org
> >> >> >> >> Betreff: [Samba] Microsoft Outlook pst files unable to 
> >> >> >open or create
> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> All,
> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> I sent a message for help a couple of weeks ago about a 
> >> >> >> >samba migration
> >> >> >> >> issue.  With further testing, we have isolated the issue 
> >> >> >to Microsoft
> >> >> >> >> Outlook (versions 2007 and 2010).  All other applications 
> >> >> >> >have no issues
> >> >> >> >> when they mount the new samba server reading, writing, 
> >> >> >etc.  But, in
> >> >> >> >> Outlook, when you try to open an archive (pst file) on 
> >> >> >the new samba
> >> >> >> >> server, it pops up an error "the file is already in use by 
> >> >> >> >the maximum
> >> >> >> >> number of applications.  Close some of these applications 
> >> >> >> >and try again.
> >> >> >> >> You may need to restart your computer."  Nothing esle has 
> >> >> >> >the file open.
> >> >> >> >> So to test, we tried to create a new archive file 
> >that does not
> >> >> >> >> currently exist on the server, and it gives you the same 
> >> >> >> >error and fails
> >> >> >> >> to create the file.  If we unmount from the new 
> >samba server 
> >> >> >> >to the old
> >> >> >> >> one, it can create it just fine.  Please help 
> >anyone, I'm at 
> >> >> >> >a complete
> >> >> >> >> loss where to go from here!
> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> Sincerely,
> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> Doug Tucker
> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >-- 
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