[Samba] samba.org has been revised!

[Robert LeBlanc]

I really love how all this criticism comes from someone who's website looks
like something out of the 90's. Animated gifs are 20 years old now! The
design on your pages suck, it is not easy on the eyes, I'm not drawn to what
is important. Yes I can read it (the text is legible), but just barely
because the layout does not flow and I can't find anything. There is more to
design than just the text px (which I highly discourage as well). Using too
many fonts, having unbalanced portions of the page, etc.

Please before you go slamming someone else's work, fix your own site so you
have some credibility!

Robert LeBlanc
Life Sciences & Undergraduate Education Computer Support
Brigham Young University


On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Felix Miata <mrmazda at earthlink.net> wrote:

> On 2010/05/19 09:12 (GMT-0400) David Eisner composed:
>
> > On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:22 PM, Felix Miata <mrmazda at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
> >> Not even close. Arguably it's attractive, as long as you don't actually
> need
> >> to use it or read anything on it. Pray your eyes are as good as a 15
> year old
> >> or you aren't using a high resolution device to access it if so.
>
> > I like the new design.  I'm not particularly young, and I don't have a
> > particularly fancy monitor.  I do wear glasses, though.
>
> Many people, regardless of age, even with correction, don't see
> particularly
> well, but quite well enough to use web pages that respect their defaults.
> These aren't the only people now being disrespected. All, regardless of
> eyesight, should be respected. Web designers as a group either don't
> understand the meaning of that word, or don't think it a necessary part of
> designing for the web.
>
> http://fm.no-ip.com/Inet/shame.html
>
> > The CSS sizes the fonts in px, though, which is a problem.
>
> Exactly.
>
> >  The issue
> > isn't that your monitor has too low a resolution, it's that it's "too"
> > high.
>
> Hogwash:
>
> 1-The technology to design web pages with resolution independence is more
> than a decade old. http://fm.no-ip.com/Auth/Sites/Ksc/ is a very simple
> example of how it can be done. Apply zoom, or change your default larger or
> smaller to see how well it can work.
>
> 2-High resolution == high quality. Therefore, higher resolution _should_
> mean
> a higher quality web experience. Web fonts are famous for marginal to poor
> quality. That lack of quality is proportional to DPI. The higher the DPI,
> the
> higher the quality, as each character of any given physical size has more
> px
> to be rendered with. My default of 24px has nominally 576 px per character,
> compared to samba's 13px at nominal 169px, which is several orders of
> magnitude higher quality.
>
> 3-A major reason still higher resolution isn't widely available yet is the
> usability factor. Web pages and software are still being designed as if
> people were using display hardware manufactured two decades ago. Were page
> and software designers incorporating resolution independence, even more
> advanced (still higher DPI) hardware to take advantage of it would be here
> already. IOW, hardware technology is being held back by anachronistic
> software and web page design.
>
> > Have you tried Ctrl-+ a few times?
>
> Of course. But it's necessary on virtually every page, because virtually
> every page is designed either without regard to user defaults (in px), or
> by
> setting some base size at a fraction of the defaults (assuming the defaults
> are incorrectly set "too large").
>
> Both behaviors (without regard, and assuming wrongly large) are offensive.
> Ctrl-+ (and minimum font size) are _defensive_ features provided by browser
> makers. Absent an offense, a defense needn't be applied.
>
> Poor legibility, caused primarily by too small fonts, besides being
> offensive, is a widespread usability problem:
>
> http://www.useit.com/alertbox/designmistakes.html
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