[Samba] 3.5 in Debian Squeeze?

grant little grantliddle at gmail.com
Wed Mar 24 20:07:03 MDT 2010


On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 7:25 AM, Robert LeBlanc <robert at leblancnet.us>wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:21 AM, Christian PERRIER <bubulle at debian.org
> >wrote:
>
> > Quoting Robert LeBlanc (robert at leblancnet.us):
> > > What is the milestone that will get 3.5 into Debian Squeeze?
> >
> >
> > We're still in the process of deciding whether we'll go for 3.4.* or
> > 3.5 for squeeze.
> >
> > There are arguments for both:
> >
> > - 3.4.* releases are now rock solid and the risk of "important" issues
> > to be discovered that would make these versions unsuitable for
> > production servers is not very high while 3.5.* are fairly young as of
> > now.
> >
> > - Strong support by the Samba Team for 3.4.* releases will be
> > decreasing rapidly in the upcoming months and it might become hard to
> > make this release alive for the planned two years of lifetime (at
> > minimum) that squeeze will have after it's released. There are also
> > several improvements bringed by 3.5 which our users would benefit from.
> >
> >
> > My own stance is to go for 3.5 and, as one of the maintainers, I'll
> > push for it. However, I want to ask to the Debian release team about
> > their feeling for pushing point releases (3.5.2, 3.5.3, etc.) in
> > squeeze during the time squeeze is frozen....It would help a lot if
> > they agree that we can do this even late in the release process but
> > you can imagine that they can't say "yes" to all such
> > requests...otherwise the freeze is no longer a freeze.
> >
> > A key point is having my co-maintainer (Steve Langasek) advice about
> > this. Other co-maintainers have agreed for having 3.5 in squeeze
> > (particularly Matthieu Parent, who maintains ctdb)
> >
> >
> Thank you for taking the time, this is very helpful. I fully understand
> both
> sides of the argument as I take both positions on a regular basis. I do
> like
> 3.4 as it has worked quite well for us, as we move to Windows 7, we have
> uncovered problems which we hope 3.5 will resolve. Winbind has also given
> us
> problems in 3.4, and with the large rework in 3.5 we hope it's solved a lot
> of those pain points. I haven't heard when the freeze will be for Squeeze,
> but if it would be helpful, I can try to carve out some time to pull 3.5
> from experimental on a test box and try it in our environment for feedback.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Robert LeBlanc
> Life Sciences & Undergraduate Education Computer Support
> Brigham Young University
> --
>
> On Ubuntu 9.10 which currently uses 3.4.0 there are, for me,  many problems
solved by moving to 3.5 not the least of which are windows 7, the ability to
login from OS X when using AD/LDAP/Kerberos and better support for ACLs  so
I'm hoping that Debian will move quickly to 3.5 and that it will feed
downstream to Ubuntu 9.10  within my lifetime. It seems that Lucid is still
at 3.4.7 tantalizingly close to 3.5   For ubuntu  9.10 samba 3.4.0 is not up
to much since it cannot do the mac OS X login described or windows 7.
My vote is for 3.5 on both debian squeeze and ubuntu lucid. Faint hope...

Grant.


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