[Samba] Long delays when launching programs for the first timein my Windows 7 Profile (Samba 3.4.3 as PDC)

tms3 at tms3.com tms3 at tms3.com
Wed Jun 30 15:15:35 MDT 2010

> ----
> Well -- not exactly -- I have almost the same symptom -- but
> on logout -- it takes up to 45 minutes for my Win7 profile to be
> copied to my PDC.    But I've tried Samba 3.5.2, 3.5.3 and 3.5.3.
> Hey...that's something to try.    Try the latest released version and
> see if you have the same symptoms/problems!

I've not had these problems.  (I don't call it a problem if someone 
with a 10GB profile has slow login logout times...anywho).  But I 
typically place profiles on a mount that does not have ACL's turned 
on.  More recently on ZFS volumes.

Be interesting to see network traffic.

> But I am using both a Win7-64 and WinXP client to log into my
> PDC and generate continuous havoc.  Just wait until you try using 
> winbind
> to authenticate security on your linux PDC!  Ha!  Warning -- keep
> a rescue disk around in case you get locked out of your system!  ;^]
> On top of roaming profiles, I used the group policy client
> to create roaming profiles for all clients -- even if they were
> not part of the domain!  (this was when I was having problems
> joining my computers to the domain reliably).
> Anyway --  I have long logins on Win7 (~ 4-5 minutes,
> vs. about 20 seconds on XP).  Where I get the real long pauses are
> on logout -- I've seen it finsh after 45 minutes one time -- the
> clients are communicating to the PDC but at speeds usually <100K/s.
> I know that it is not likely to be samba's fault in regards
> to the speed, since I get *up to* 100MB read/write to samba during
> benchmark testing.
>>> maybe some antivirus interaction?
>> Will check with sysinternals but assume no, because oft he
>> locally-is-everything-fine thing.
>>> the login/logouts -- read about them on MS's website...look up
>>> under profile loading ... it talks about how multi-gig profiles
>>> will really slow down first time loading.
>> As I wrote, I am having the problem with FRESH CREATED profiles, which 
>> are
>> just a few kilobytes of size!
> ---
> Ok -- that's just weird.  No argument!
>>> If you think it is a network problem,
>>> use "wireshark" -- it will let you observe the network traffic.
>>> (google it) it's also free.
>> Thank you Linda.
>>> You need to become familiar with all these diagnotic tools
>>> (that and get yourself a "procmail" email filter so you  can filter
>>> out all the garbage from all the email groups you have to subscribe
>>> to to just keep things working!)...
>> Do you know a good windows-alternative to procmail? Isn't the new 
>> outlook
>> 2010 able to group emails into threads?
> ----
> You can run all the linux utils -- including procmail under
> cygwin on windows.  I missed all the linux utils so much -- I 
> installed cygwin
> on windows 7 years ago and haven't done without it since!  You can 
> even run
> a local IMAP server on your windows box -- let your windows box 
> download all your
> email from your ISP -- then connect to the local server with Outlook 
> or Thunderbird
> and use IMAP.
> OR -- better -- use  your server as an email server as well!
> My server downloads my email from my ISP  (see linux util 
> 'fetchmail'), then it
> calls my filter script (or it could call procmail).  It also calls 
> spamassassin
> before it tries to deliver it to me.  But then my filter script (like 
> procmail only
> different!) sorts the emails into folders in my home directory on the
> linux server under 'mail'.  I then use 'dovecot' (an very fast, secure 
> server) to serve my email to my windows clients.  Since I have 
> multiple machines,
> I don't want the email coming to one of the windows machines.  It 
> stays on the
> server in my home directory.  I have well over 100 file folders -- 
> only about 70 of them
> actively receive email (some are just archives/sorting bins).  But in 
> my email
> clients I see all the folders by email list -- I read them when I have 
> time --
> so I don't get interrupts.
> I think you'll find it's better to leave the email on the server -- 
> that way
> if you can try differnt clients (I can switch between outlook and 
> tbird if I was so
> perverse).  Both will read my active mail.  Groups that have new 
> messages in Tbird
> light up in blue.
>>>> Seriously -- I have nearly 80 email groups I sub to...if I didn't 
>>>> filter
>>> I'd just 'lose it'...but they all go into folders and I read them when
>>> I want...if I don't, I have them setup to automatically expire after
>>> a few months...  it's just like a forum, but better....since it's
>>> all in one place!  :-)
>> Well I am attending to about 20 forums and I am having everything in 
>> one
>> place too: My email-mailbox as soon as I am getting an answer to my 
>> postings
>> :-) But not 10000 other emails that need further processing ;-)
> ----
> But you can't keep track of the 20-80 forums when you want -- in your
> email client -- you have to find the websites for each of them.  And 
> just now
> (and day before yesterday). when I wanted to respond to someone in 
> forums (I
> read forums too -- no choice for some groups) -- I have to 'sign up', 
> but then
> I get told that my message is going to be moderated because I don't 
> post
> enough -- so then I have to wonder if my post will even see the light 
> of day.
> It's a real pain.
> But that's getting to be an old topic ....
> Check out 'wireshark' and the sysinternals utils like 'procmon' and 
> 'process explorer'.
> Procmon will let you monitor processes -- wireshark can let you see if 
> your client is waiting
> for network messages...
> If you know the linux utils, cygwin is a complete set -- I use it's
> 'X' server all the time to display utils from my linux box so I can 
> monitor things.
> Cygwin will make use of the 'unix extensions' in samba if they are 
> enabled, BTW...
> -linda
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