[Samba] "net rpc vampire" case sensitivity problem

Daniel Kasak dkasak at nusconsulting.com.au
Fri Mar 26 01:03:33 GMT 2004


John H Terpstra wrote:

>On Fri, 26 Mar 2004, Daniel Kasak wrote:
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>>John H Terpstra wrote:
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>>>The problem you refer to is not a 'net rpc vampire' issue. This is
>>>specifically an issue pertaining to the host operating system that Samba
>>>is running on.
>>>
>>>In the Samba-HOWTO-Collection chapter on Migration I have provided a
>>>shell
>>>script that can be used to get around this OS problem. The script is in
>>>Example 12.1, called "smbgrpadd.sh". You can easily craft a similar
>>>script
>>>to handle addition of user accounts.
>>>
>>>Please let me know if this is not an acceptable solution for you.
>>>
>>>- John T.
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>>Right. I read that HOWTO ( honest, a few times ), but I missed that script.
>>When I next attempt the migration, I'll give it a go.
>>What are the chances of getting something like this merged in with the
>>vampire process?
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>Why might we want to impose the restriction needed because of a
>brain-dead OS implementation on ALL OS platforms?
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>- John T.
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???
To make the product easier to use maybe?
It's all very well to say "Oh yeah. That doesn't work. You'll have to 
manually add that, and modify this script here to fit that, and wave a 
dead chicken over this thing here unless that over there has already 
done this, and ignore that error ... that's supposed to happen" and 
claim it's all Microsoft's fault in the process. Maybe it is. But here 
you have an end user ( and I'm relatively motivated compared to most end 
users, even though I probably fall short of a Samba developer ) saying 
that they want a little more integration of tools to make the process 
easier. Merely stating that this problem is Microsoft's fault does 
nothing to address the issue that the vampire command in it's default 
configuration doesn't work in many situations.

What I'm suggesting is NOT that we all plague our OSs with Microsoft's 
mistakes to become compatible, but that we merely integrate the loose 
collection of scripts and how-tos and other assorted good advice into a 
coherent package that you can use to achieve the outcome that end users 
are after: to migrate from NT to Samba - not to research and debate the 
finer details of the differences between Microsoft's and Linux's 
implementation of feature X.

I'm also not clear on what restrictions would be imposed by giving the 
user an option to run a script that converts NT user names into 
Linux-friendly user names.
Surely the amount of time it takes to add such scripts to the how-to 
collection and answer posts such as mine would be better spent in 
integrating the scripts into the actual product?

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Daniel Kasak
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