[Samba] [proposal] Samba Software Foundation

Steve Simeonidis SSimeonidis at computerpower.edu.au
Wed Dec 15 23:01:39 GMT 2004

I have great respect for the "Samba Team", for the hard work they
put in and their success stories.

As long as the decisions that are made technical or not are community
focused, at the end of the day I would like an alternative to Windows (replace all those
bl.... Windows servers) and have the freedom of Open Source software.

Since you are part of a very sucessful project like SAMBA you are open to
scrutiny but that is not a bad thing, depending on the approach you take.
There are a lot of people out there that will
support and respect you as long as you can demostrate that the right decisions are made.


-----Original Message-----
From: samba-bounces+ssimeonidis=computerpower.edu.au at lists.samba.org [mailto:samba-bounces+ssimeonidis=computerpower.edu.au at lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of Michael H. Warfield
Sent: Thursday, 16 December 2004 9:00 AM
To: Gerald (Jerry) Carter
Cc: samba at lists.samba.org; samba-technical at lists.samba.org
Subject: Re: [Samba] [proposal] Samba Software Foundation

On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 03:18:48PM -0600, Gerald (Jerry) Carter wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Dec 2004, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:

> | dear samba users and developers,
> |
> | i'd like to put to you a proposal for your respectful
> | consideration: it is an idea that i believe has
> | strategic merit for the open source community and OS
> | users as a whole.

> The possibility of such a foundation to support and
> promote the Samba community has been discussed and
> considered in the past.  I should point out however,
> that by his own choice Luke Leighton is no longer an
> active participant in the Samba development community.

	I have to agree here very strongly.  No matter how
you feel about his "proposal", it was presented in an inapproprioate maner and off topic for the list.  As others have pointed out, this has been discussed in the past.  The team decided otherwise.  This would be something which the team should discuss and decide on.  Instead, it was put forth as a unilateral proposal with no attempt toward discussion with the team itself, who, ultimately, must decide.  I'm sure this was NOT the way the Apache Foundation was established.  Not by blindsiding the entire active development team.  It was a long and complex proposal that would take a LOT of discussion, not a simple presentation of "here it is" fait accomply...

> Luke and others have created a fork, which is known as Samba-TNG 
> (http://www.samba-tng.org), of the Samba code in October, 2000.  Our 
> stance has always been supportive of Luke and the Samba-TNG 
> developers.  See

> 	http://www.samba.org/samba/tng.html

> However, given that Luke is no longer a developer
> on Samba, it is off-topic for him to propose a
> organizational change to a OSS project with which
> he is no longer associated.

> cheers, jerry
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