[Samba] Question about new Samba 3 rc4 and BDC

John H Terpstra jht at samba.org
Wed Sep 17 23:09:36 GMT 2003


On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Gabriel Matthews wrote:

>
> I might see the answer here in the HOWTOs... I didn't see this before..
> *sigh*
>
> Can Samba be a Backup Domain Controller to an NT4 PDC?
> With version 2.2, no. The native NT4 SAM replication protocols have not
> yet been fully implemented. The Samba Team is working on understanding and
> implementing the protocols, but this work has not been finished for
> Samba-3.
>
> Can I get the benefits of a BDC with Samba? Yes, but only to a Samba PDC.
> The main reason for implementing a BDC is availability. If the PDC is a
> Samba machine, a second Samba machine can be set up to service logon
> requests whenever the PDC is down.
>
>
> So.. I guess the question needs to be directed to the SAMBA development
> team, do they expect to have this functionality implimented in the final
> release of SAMBA 3, or does anybody know yet?

Answer: No! Samba-3 is not able to do SAM replication with an NT4 domain
controller (PDC or BDC). All we can offer is SAM download using the
Vampire facility. ie: "net rpc vampire" - as documented in the NT4
Migration chapter.

- John T.


>
> Gabriel
>
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, [ISO-8859-1] Gémes Géza wrote:
>
> ! Gabriel Matthews írta:
> !
> ! >I have looked a bit through some of the archives for this list, and I have
> ! >caught different ideas on this matter.. I've also read through the
> ! >HOWTOs on how to do this stuff, but I haven't received the same results
> ! >that I was expecting, so I need someone to help me out a bit, give me a
> ! >definite YES or NO and if YES, how?
> ! >
> ! >I have the latest release candidate of samba 3 installed on redhat-9.  I
> ! >want to make it a BDC with my existing NT 4 domain in a remote office on
> ! >its own subnet.  I also want to use Winbind to help keep from having to
> ! >have local accounts on the machines, so anybody can do what they want to
> ! >on any server.  I have no LDAP server to play with either,
> ! >
> ! >So, the question is:  Can Samba 3 function as a BDC in an NT4 domain, with
> ! >an NT4 server as PDC?  If it is possible, what are the tricks to getting
> ! >the samba server to join the domain as a BDC and communicate properly with
> ! >the PDC?   If it is NOT possible, does it then become necessary to make
> ! >the PDC of the domain a samba machine, and have all the NT machines
> ! >function as BDCs?
> ! >
> ! >I appreciate any help that you can give me with this.. I know there has to
> ! >be tons of people asking this same question over and over again, but again
> ! >I do appreciate any help.. Thanks!
> ! >
> ! >Gabriel Matthews
> ! >Network Support
> ! >Cinergy Communications
> ! >
> ! >"No.  I am your father."
> ! >  -Darth Vader, leader, devoted parent,
> ! >     and friend to all.
> ! >
> ! >
> ! >
> ! NO!
> ! Samba is able to be a PDC, or a BDC to another Samba, at least this is
> ! written in docs. The reason is, that NT4 domain controlers keep domain
> ! users, groups, etc in a special part (SAM) of their registry. About the
> ! possibility of  using winbind on the Samba BDC, it sounds interesting,
> ! but I don't know if winbind has a cacheing functionality, needed, if you
> ! realy want a true backup sollution.
> !
> ! Good Luck!
> !
> ! Geza Gemes
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>
> Gabriel Matthews
> Network Support
> Cinergy Communications
>
> "No.  I am your father."
>   -Darth Vader, leader, devoted parent,
>      and friend to all.
>
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