[Samba] wins support = yes time server = yes
John H Terpstra
jht at samba.org
Sun May 11 19:46:50 GMT 2003
Chris,
Suggest you read the chapter on Browsing in the following (work in
progress) document:
http://samba.org/~jht/Samba-HOWTO-Collection.pdf
I will reply to your earlier emails later today.
Cheers,
John T.
On Sun, 11 May 2003, Chris McKeever wrote:
> until this issue, all the machines were registering great with the wins
> server, and they do get its IP from DHCP (all verified)...since playing with
> this in the am, it has been about an hour and I am not seeing anyone
> registering...
>
> they are all remote, and I want to just wait and see if they do
> register....I rebooted a couple and they did register, but here is the weird
> issue...
>
> I can ping them OK, but they dont show up in network neighborhood...
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John H Terpstra [mailto:jht at samba.org]
> > Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 11:24 AM
> > To: Chris McKeever
> > Cc: Chris McKeever; samba at lists.samba.org
> > Subject: RE: [Samba] wins support = yes time server = yes
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 11 May 2003, Chris McKeever wrote:
> >
> > > yeah..that was a typo--- I did change it to workgroup = pruprefcom
> > >
> > > now, i just noticed something new...
> > >
> > > I restarted without the time server and when I can
> > > nbtstat -A ip.of.wins.server I recieved the host not found
> > (the symptom I
> > > got after starting the time server)
> > >
> > > I needed to restart samba again, so something is funky...
> > >
> > > So in all infinite IT wisdom, i rebooted and am now seeing
> > how things are
> > > going.
> > >
> > > quick question - on a windows network, how longs do windows
> > machines take to
> > > sync back with the wins server? and then start to show up
> > in network
> > > neighborhood?? right now it is seeming to take a long time
> >
> > If you blew away your wins.dat file then each machine needs
> > to re-register
> > (that takes at least 15 minutes. It is quicker to reboot MS Windows
> > machines as they always register on start up.
> >
> > This raises another point, make sure that your MS Windows
> > clients all have
> > th IP address of your Samba server in the WINS server entries - please
> > check this.
> >
> > In the absence of WINS it can take up to 45 minutes for the
> > browse list to
> > stabilize. With WINS it should be stable immediately.
> >
> > - John T.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: John H Terpstra [mailto:jht at samba.org]
> > > > Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 11:13 AM
> > > > To: Chris McKeever
> > > > Cc: Chris McKeever; samba at lists.samba.org
> > > > Subject: RE: [Samba] wins support = yes time server = yes
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Chris,
> > > >
> > > > Many sites run Samba as a WINS server and a time server at
> > > > the same tme
> > > > without problem. We need to find out what is causing the
> > > > problem at your
> > > > end.
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, 11 May 2003, Chris McKeever wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I changed the workgroup to:
> > > > >
> > > > > workgroup = prupref.com
> > > >
> > > > Doh! This is what you had, isn't it? Is this a typo?
> > > >
> > > > Also, I should have asked you to delete the browse.dat and
> > > > wins.dat files
> > > > before restarting nmbd and smbd.
> > > >
> > > > I will check into this further later today and will get
> > back to you.
> > > >
> > > > - John T.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > and then uncommented the time server = yes
> > > > >
> > > > > when running nbtstat -A ip.of.wins.server I get host not found
> > > > > when I commented back out time server I get a response from
> > > > the wins server
> > > > > after issuing: nbtstat -A ip.of.wins.server (with workgroup
> > > > = prupref.com OR
> > > > > workgroup = pruprefcom)
> > > > >
> > > > > If someone could turn on thier time server = yes and see if
> > > > they get similar
> > > > > results that would be great.
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: John H Terpstra [mailto:jht at samba.org]
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2003 11:40 PM
> > > > > > To: Chris McKeever
> > > > > > Cc: Chris McKeever; samba at lists.samba.org
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [Samba] wins support = yes time server = yes
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, 10 May 2003, Chris McKeever wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > as it is in production, comments and all
> > > > > > > when I turn the time server on, wins poops out
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There is no connection between WINS serving and Time Serving
> > > > > > have nothing
> > > > > > to do with each other with the only exception that it causes
> > > > > > nmbd (which
> > > > > > is the WINS server _and_ the NetBIOS Name Server) to
> > > > > > advertise your server
> > > > > > as a time server.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I suspect that the real problem you are seeing is caused
> > > > by the use of
> > > > > > your internet domain name as a NetBIOS workgroup/domain name.
> > > > > > That is NOT
> > > > > > a good idea.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Suggest you try changing:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > workgroup = prupref.com
> > > > > > to:
> > > > > > workgroup = pruprefcom
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ie: No '.' or '_' characters in the workgroup name.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please let me know if this solves the problem.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > John T.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > thanks!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > # This is the main Samba configuration file. You
> > should read the
> > > > > > > # smb.conf(5) manual page in order to understand the
> > > > options listed
> > > > > > > # here. Samba has a huge number of configurable options
> > > > (perhaps too
> > > > > > > # many!) most of which are not shown in this example
> > > > > > > #
> > > > > > > # Any line which starts with a ; (semi-colon) or a # (hash)
> > > > > > > # is a comment and is ignored. In this example we
> > will use a #
> > > > > > > # for commentry and a ; for parts of the config
> > file that you
> > > > > > > # may wish to enable
> > > > > > > #
> > > > > > > # NOTE: Whenever you modify this file you should run the
> > > > > > command "testparm"
> > > > > > > # to check that you have not made any basic
> > syntactic errors.
> > > > > > > #
> > > > > > > #======================= Global Settings
> > > > > > > =====================================
> > > > > > > [global]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > # workgroup = NT-Domain-Name or Workgroup-Name
> > > > > > > workgroup = prupref.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > # server string is the equivalent of the NT
> > Description field
> > > > > > > server string = Directory Server (LDAP)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > # This option is important for security. It allows you
> > > > to restrict
> > > > > > > # connections to machines which are on your local
> > network. The
> > > > > > > # following example restricts access to two C class
> > networks and
> > > > > > > # the "loopback" interface. For more examples of
> > the syntax see
> > > > > > > # the smb.conf man page
> > > > > > > ; hosts allow = 192.168.1. 192.168.2. 127.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > # if you want to automatically load your printer list rather
> > > > > > > # than setting them up individually then you'll need this
> > > > > > > # printcap name = /etc/printcap
> > > > > > > # load printers = yes
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > # It should not be necessary to spell out the print system
> > > > > > type unless
> > > > > > > # yours is non-standard. Currently supported print
> > > > systems include:
> > > > > > > # bsd, sysv, plp, lprng, aix, hpux, qnx
> > > > > > > ; printing = bsd
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > # Uncomment this if you want a guest account, you must
> > > > add this to
> > > > > > > /etc/passwd
> > > > > > > # otherwise the user "nobody" is used
> > > > > > > ; guest account = pcguest
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > # this tells Samba to use a separate log file for
> > each machine
> > > > > > > # that connects
> > > > > > > log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > # Put a capping on the size of the log files (in Kb).
> > > > > > > max log size = 50
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > # Security mode. Most people will want user level
> > security. See
> > > > > > > # security_level.txt for details.
> > > > > > > security = user
> > > > > > > # Use password server option only with security = server
> > > > > > > ; password server = <NT-Server-Name>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > # Password Level allows matching of _n_ characters of the
> > > > > > password for
> > > > > > > # all combinations of upper and lower case.
> > > > > > > ; password level = 8
> > > > > > > ; username level = 8
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > # You may wish to use password encryption. Please read
> > > > > > > # ENCRYPTION.txt, Win95.txt and WinNT.txt in the Samba
> > > > > > documentation.
> > > > > > > # Do not enable this option unless you have read
> > those documents
> > > > > > > encrypt passwords = yes
> > > > > > > ; smb passwd file = /etc/samba/smbpasswd
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > # The following are needed to allow password changing from
> > > > > > Windows to
> > > > > > > # update the Linux sytsem password also.
> > > > > > > # NOTE: Use these with 'encrypt passwords' and 'smb passwd
> > > > > > file' above.
> > > > > > > # NOTE2: You do NOT need these to allow workstations to
> > > > change only
> > > > > > > # the encrypted SMB passwords. They allow the
> > > > Unix password
> > > > > > > # to be kept in sync with the SMB password.
> > > > > > > ; unix password sync = Yes
> > > > > > > ; passwd program = /usr/bin/passwd %u
> > > > > > > ; passwd chat = *New*UNIX*password* %n\n
> > > > > > *ReType*new*UNIX*password* %n\n
> > > > > > > *passwd:*all*authentication*tokens*updated*successfully*
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > # Unix users can map to different SMB User names
> > > > > > > ; username map = /etc/samba/smbusers
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > # Using the following line enables you to customise your
> > > > > > configuration
> > > > > > > # on a per machine basis. The %m gets replaced with the
> > > > netbios name
> > > > > > > # of the machine that is connecting
> > > > > > > ; include = /etc/samba/smb.conf.%m
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > # Most people will find that this option gives better
> > > > performance.
> > > > > > > # See speed.txt and the manual pages for details
> > > > > > > socket options = TCP_NODELAY SO_RCVBUF=8192
> > SO_SNDBUF=8192
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > # Configure Samba to use multiple interfaces
> > > > > > > # If you have multiple network interfaces then you must
> > > > list them
> > > > > > > # here. See the man page for details.
> > > > > > > ; interfaces = 192.168.12.2/24 192.168.13.2/24
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > # Configure remote browse list synchronisation here
> > > > > > > # request announcement to, or browse list sync from:
> > > > > > > # a specific host or from / to a whole subnet (see below)
> > > > > > > ; remote browse sync = 192.168.3.25 192.168.5.255
> > > > > > > # Cause this host to announce itself to local subnets here
> > > > > > > ; remote announce = 192.168.1.255 192.168.2.44
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > # Browser Control Options:
> > > > > > > # set local master to no if you don't want Samba to
> > > > become a master
> > > > > > > # browser on your network. Otherwise the normal
> > > > election rules apply
> > > > > > > ; local master = no
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > # OS Level determines the precedence of this server in
> > > > > > master browser
> > > > > > > # elections. The default value should be reasonable
> > > > > > > ; os level = 33
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > # Domain Master specifies Samba to be the Domain Master
> > > > > > Browser. This
> > > > > > > # allows Samba to collate browse lists between subnets.
> > > > > > Don't use this
> > > > > > > # if you already have a Windows NT domain controller
> > > > doing this job
> > > > > > > ; domain master = yes
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > # Preferred Master causes Samba to force a local browser
> > > > > > election on startup
> > > > > > > # and gives it a slightly higher chance of winning
> > the election
> > > > > > > ; preferred master = yes
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > # Use only if you have an NT server on your network
> > > > that has been
> > > > > > > # configured at install time to be a primary domain
> > controller.
> > > > > > > ; domain controller = <NT-Domain-Controller-SMBName>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > # Enable this if you want Samba to be a domain
> > logon server for
> > > > > > > # Windows95 workstations.
> > > > > > > ; domain logons = yes
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > # if you enable domain logons then you may want a
> > per-machine or
> > > > > > > # per user logon script
> > > > > > > # run a specific logon batch file per workstation (machine)
> > > > > > > ; logon script = %m.bat
> > > > > > > # run a specific logon batch file per username
> > > > > > > ; logon script = %U.bat
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > # Where to store roving profiles (only for Win95 and WinNT)
> > > > > > > # %L substitutes for this servers netbios name, %U
> > > > > > is username
> > > > > > > # You must uncomment the [Profiles] share below
> > > > > > > ; logon path = \\%L\Profiles\%U
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > # All NetBIOS names must be resolved to IP Addresses
> > > > > > > # 'Name Resolve Order' allows the named resolution
> > > > > > mechanism to be specified
> > > > > > > # the default order is "host lmhosts wins bcast". "host"
> > > > > > means use the unix
> > > > > > > # system gethostbyname() function call that will use either
> > > > > > /etc/hosts OR
> > > > > > > # DNS or NIS depending on the settings of /etc/host.config,
> > > > > > > /etc/nsswitch.conf
> > > > > > > # and the /etc/resolv.conf file. "host" therefore is system
> > > > > > configuration
> > > > > > > # dependant. This parameter is most often of use to prevent
> > > > > > DNS lookups
> > > > > > > # in order to resolve NetBIOS names to IP Addresses.
> > > > Use with care!
> > > > > > > # The example below excludes use of name resolution for
> > > > > > machines that are
> > > > > > > NOT
> > > > > > > # on the local network segment
> > > > > > > # - OR - are not deliberately to be known via lmhosts
> > > > or via WINS.
> > > > > > > ; name resolve order = wins lmhosts bcast
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > # Windows Internet Name Serving Support Section:
> > > > > > > # WINS Support - Tells the NMBD component of Samba to
> > > > > > enable it's WINS
> > > > > > > Server
> > > > > > > wins support = yes
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ; time server = yes
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > # WINS Server - Tells the NMBD components of Samba to be a
> > > > > > WINS Client
> > > > > > > # Note: Samba can be either a WINS Server, or a WINS
> > > > > > Client, but NOT
> > > > > > > both
> > > > > > > # wins server = 192.168.2.10
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > # WINS Proxy - Tells Samba to answer name
> > resolution queries on
> > > > > > > # behalf of a non WINS capable client, for this to work
> > > > > > there must be
> > > > > > > # at least one WINS Server on the network. The
> > default is NO.
> > > > > > > ; wins proxy = yes
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > # DNS Proxy - tells Samba whether or not to try to resolve
> > > > > > NetBIOS names
> > > > > > > # via DNS nslookups. The built-in default for versions
> > > > > > 1.9.17 is yes,
> > > > > > > # this has been changed in version 1.9.18 to no.
> > > > > > > dns proxy = no
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > # Case Preservation can be handy - system default is _no_
> > > > > > > # NOTE: These can be set on a per share basis
> > > > > > > ; preserve case = no
> > > > > > > ; short preserve case = no
> > > > > > > # Default case is normally upper case for all DOS files
> > > > > > > ; default case = lower
> > > > > > > # Be very careful with case sensitivity - it can
> > break things!
> > > > > > > ; case sensitive = no
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ldap admin dn = cn=root,dc=prupref,dc=com
> > > > > > > ldap server = ldap.prupref.com
> > > > > > > ldap suffix = dc=prupref,dc=com
> > > > > > > ldap port = 389
> > > > > > > ldap ssl = start_tls
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > #============================ Share Definitions
> > > > > > > ==============================
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [startup$]
> > > > > > > comment = central station start-up location
> > > > > > > path = /home/station-startup
> > > > > > > browseable = no
> > > > > > > public = yes
> > > > > > > read only = yes
> > > > > > > write list = @domain-admins
> > > > > > > oplocks = no
> > > > > > > level2 oplocks = no
> > > > > > > force directory mode = 0775
> > > > > > > force create mode = 0660
> > > > > > > force group = domain-admins
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [pcawin$]
> > > > > > > comment = admin pcaccess shared files
> > > > > > > path = /home/admin-pcawin
> > > > > > > browseable = no
> > > > > > > public = yes
> > > > > > > writable = yes
> > > > > > > oplocks = no
> > > > > > > level2 oplocks = no
> > > > > > > force directory mode = 0666
> > > > > > > force create mode = 0666
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [putty]
> > > > > > > comment = putty.exe location
> > > > > > > path = /home/putty
> > > > > > > browseable = yes
> > > > > > > public = yes
> > > > > > > read only = yes
> > > > > > > write list = @domain-admins
> > > > > > > oplocks = no
> > > > > > > level2 oplocks = no
> > > > > > > force directory mode = 0775
> > > > > > > force create mode = 0660
> > > > > > > force group = domain-admins
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > #[homes]
> > > > > > > # comment = Home Directories
> > > > > > > # browseable = no
> > > > > > > # writable = yes
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > # Un-comment the following and create the netlogon
> > > > > > directory for Domain
> > > > > > > Logons
> > > > > > > ; [netlogon]
> > > > > > > ; comment = Network Logon Service
> > > > > > > ; path = /home/netlogon
> > > > > > > ; guest ok = yes
> > > > > > > ; writable = no
> > > > > > > ; share modes = no
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > # Un-comment the following to provide a specific roving
> > > > > > profile share
> > > > > > > # the default is to use the user's home directory
> > > > > > > ;[Profiles]
> > > > > > > ; path = /home/profiles
> > > > > > > ; browseable = no
> > > > > > > ; guest ok = yes
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > # NOTE: If you have a BSD-style print system there
> > is no need to
> > > > > > > # specifically define each individual printer
> > > > > > > #[printers]
> > > > > > > # comment = All Printers
> > > > > > > # path = /var/spool/samba
> > > > > > > # browseable = no
> > > > > > > # Set public = yes to allow user 'guest account' to print
> > > > > > > # guest ok = no
> > > > > > > # writable = no
> > > > > > > # printable = yes
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > # This one is useful for people to share files
> > > > > > > ;[tmp]
> > > > > > > ; comment = Temporary file space
> > > > > > > ; path = /tmp
> > > > > > > ; read only = no
> > > > > > > ; public = yes
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > # A publicly accessible directory, but read only, except
> > > > > > for people in
> > > > > > > # the "staff" group
> > > > > > > ;[public]
> > > > > > > ; comment = Public Stuff
> > > > > > > ; path = /home/samba
> > > > > > > ; public = yes
> > > > > > > ; read only = yes
> > > > > > > ; write list = @staff
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > # Other examples.
> > > > > > > #
> > > > > > > # A private printer, usable only by fred. Spool data will
> > > > > > be placed in
> > > > > > > fred's
> > > > > > > # home directory. Note that fred must have write access
> > > > to the spool
> > > > > > > directory,
> > > > > > > # wherever it is.
> > > > > > > ;[fredsprn]
> > > > > > > ; comment = Fred's Printer
> > > > > > > ; valid users = fred
> > > > > > > ; path = /homes/fred
> > > > > > > ; printer = freds_printer
> > > > > > > ; public = no
> > > > > > > ; writable = no
> > > > > > > ; printable = yes
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > # A private directory, usable only by fred. Note that fred
> > > > > > requires write
> > > > > > > # access to the directory.
> > > > > > > ;[fredsdir]
> > > > > > > ; comment = Fred's Service
> > > > > > > ; path = /usr/somewhere/private
> > > > > > > ; valid users = fred
> > > > > > > ; public = no
> > > > > > > ; writable = yes
> > > > > > > ; printable = no
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > # a service which has a different directory for each
> > > > > > machine that connects
> > > > > > > # this allows you to tailor configurations to incoming
> > > > > > machines. You could
> > > > > > > # also use the %u option to tailor it by user name.
> > > > > > > # The %m gets replaced with the machine name that
> > is connecting.
> > > > > > > ;[pchome]
> > > > > > > ; comment = PC Directories
> > > > > > > ; path = /usr/pc/%m
> > > > > > > ; public = no
> > > > > > > ; writable = yes
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > # A publicly accessible directory, read/write to all users.
> > > > > > Note that all
> > > > > > > files
> > > > > > > # created in the directory by users will be owned by the
> > > > > > default user, so
> > > > > > > # any user with access can delete any other user's files.
> > > > > > Obviously this
> > > > > > > # directory must be writable by the default user. Another
> > > > > > user could of
> > > > > > > course
> > > > > > > # be specified, in which case all files would be owned by
> > > > > > that user instead.
> > > > > > > ;[public]
> > > > > > > ; path = /usr/somewhere/else/public
> > > > > > > ; public = yes
> > > > > > > ; only guest = yes
> > > > > > > ; writable = yes
> > > > > > > ; printable = no
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > # The following two entries demonstrate how to share a
> > > > > > directory so that two
> > > > > > > # users can place files there that will be owned by the
> > > > > > specific users. In
> > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > # setup, the directory should be writable by both users and
> > > > > > should have the
> > > > > > > # sticky bit set on it to prevent abuse. Obviously this
> > > > > > could be extended to
> > > > > > > # as many users as required.
> > > > > > > ;[myshare]
> > > > > > > ; comment = Mary's and Fred's stuff
> > > > > > > ; path = /usr/somewhere/shared
> > > > > > > ; valid users = mary fred
> > > > > > > ; public = no
> > > > > > > ; writable = yes
> > > > > > > ; printable = no
> > > > > > > ; create mask = 0765
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: John H Terpstra [mailto:jht at samba.org]
> > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2003 11:10 AM
> > > > > > > > To: Chris McKeever
> > > > > > > > Cc: samba at lists.samba.org
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Samba] wins support = yes time server = yes
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sat, 10 May 2003, Chris McKeever wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > When I set:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > wins support = yes
> > > > > > > > > time server = yes
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > my wins service stops working and no computers
> > show up in
> > > > > > > > the network
> > > > > > > > > neighborhood..as soon as I change time server = no,
> > > > > > they start to
> > > > > > > > > re-populate.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I have looked around and havent found a
> > definitive answer
> > > > > > > > (apologies if I
> > > > > > > > > overlooked it)...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > but if someone could tell me if this is a
> > documented issue,
> > > > > > > > or just me that
> > > > > > > > > woudl be great
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I can not see anywhere in the source code that time server
> > > > > > > > may affect WINS
> > > > > > > > operation.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Send me your smb.conf and I will give you feedback.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > - John T.
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > John H Terpstra
> > > > > > > > Email: jht at samba.org
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > John H Terpstra
> > > > > > Email: jht at samba.org
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > John H Terpstra
> > > > Email: jht at samba.org
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > John H Terpstra
> > Email: jht at samba.org
> >
>
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