[Samba] Win95 & Win98 - NOT WORKING - NT,2000, XP are ok (re posted)

Fri Mar 14 11:45:28 GMT 2003

Did you change your "security" setting in your new Samba e.g. from "share"
to "domain"?

-----Original Message-----
From: peter.a.bryant at mainroads.qld.gov.au
[mailto:peter.a.bryant at mainroads.qld.gov.au]
Sent: Friday, 14 March, 2003 7:00 AM
To: samba at lists.samba.org
Cc: John H Terpstra
Subject: Re: [Samba] Win95 & Win98 - NOT WORKING - NT,2000, XP are ok
(reposted)

I tried adding the [printers] section to my conf file as John suggested, but
this didn't solve the problem.
Still able to print from NT, 2000, XP  and not from Win95, 98

just recapping - am able to print from all clients with the old version
(2.0.6)
which we are still using in production

With the new Samba (2.2.7a) the file sharing is fine, but printing only
works
for NT,2000,XP
With Win95 & Win98 only, the file gets put in the spool directory but
doesn't
seem to get
sent from the spool directory to the printer. (or picked up by the printer -
however it works...)

Any idea if Win95, 98 printing is treated differently to the newer OS's ?

thanks for any thoughts.

see below for other details...

-peter.

John H Terpstra <jht at samba.org> on 13/03/2003 03:02:55 PM
>On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 peter.a.bryant at mainroads.qld.gov.au wrote:
>
>Suggest you add a [printers] entry in your smb.conf file. You should NOT
>need an entry for the printer itself. My samba-2.2.x prints fine from
>Win95/98/Me as well as NT4/2K/XP.
>
>- John T.
>
>> Hey, thanks for your efforts anyway.
>>
>> I don't know what to make of this.
>> Obviously a lot of things have changed between Samba 2.0.6 and 2.2.7a,
>> but I can't figure out why Win95 & 98 suddenly can't print.
>> I think you may be right - something to do with the new Samba using the
>> MS-RPCs...
>> which I imagine would mean a completely different printing method.
>> Do you think this would require a different printer driver on the 95/98
boxes??
>>From what I read, I had the impression that it should all still work.
>>
>>      I'd like to hear from anyone if they are successfully printing from
Win95,
>> Win98 clients
>>      on a   Solaris server and using HP printers.
>>
>> I'm sure many people must be successfully printing from 95/98, but maybe
this
>> problem
>> is specific to my particular environment ?
>>
>> I am contemplating your suggestion about the bug message.
>> Maybe another day or so of frustration and I will try it.
>>
>> again - thanks muchly for your help.
>>
>> -peter.
>>
>>>
>>>Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 18:33:35 +0100
>>>From: "maraqas" <maraqas at libero.it>
>>>
>>>Hi Peter,
>>>    i had a long, frunstrating web surfing yesterday night, searching for
>>>something
>>>that could apply to your case. I didn't find much at all, sorry. The only
>>>thing
>>>perhaps interesting to you could be this:
>>>http://us2.samba.org/samba/ftp/docs/htmldocs/printer_driver2.html
>>>This doc contains a section about migrating from 2.0.x to 2.2.x
>>>I think the problem lyes in the new way samba manages printing, that is
>>>by listening the MS-RPCs (Remote Procedure Call) coming from the
>>>winNT and win2000 clients. This is done thanks to spoolss, as i figured
>>>out reading here and there across the net. Well they say spoolss supports
>>>even win9x driver calls, even if those OSes do not actually make an RPC.
>>>They also say that backward compat. is reached through "use client
driver"
>>>and "spoolss disable". With these options enabled, the samba server
should
>>>act just like it was a 2.0.x
>>>I think you'd need help from the samba guys themselves, so i advice
>>>reposting this problem with a more shocking subject line (suggest to
>>>use the keyword BUG :)) so you'll be able to capture their attention.
>>>
>>>Really sorry not to have been useful to you...
>>>
>>>cheers
>>>
>>>Maq
>>>
>> >>
>> >>Sorry to have to repost this (didn't get any response on the first
post),
>> >>we really need some of the fixes of the new Samba but cannot go ahead
without
>> >>the support for the older machines.
>> >>Need to prove that Samba is the great product that I believe it is.
>> >>
>> >>Hi folks - I am having printing problems with our older machines.
>> >>
>> >>Printing is working fine for our Windows NT, 2000 and XP clients.
>> >>However, with windows 95 & 98, the print job gets put into the Samba
>> >>spool directory (path = /var/spool/lp/tmp/samba)  but doesn't make it
to
the
>> >>printer.
>> >>The print files stay there in the directory - don't get removed.
>> >>
>> >>Samba version is 2.2.7a,  on Solaris 8
>> >>Printers are HP printers - e.g. HP 8100dn
>> >>
>> >>All clients including 95/98 were happily printing on a very much older
version
>> >> of Samba (2.0.6)
>> >>
>> >>printing directly from Unix to the printer is working ok
>> >>
>> >>Has anyone experienced this problem or have any advice on how to
>> >>get my older boxes printing with the latest Samba?
>> >>
>> >>any thoughts welcome - no really - anything - please....
>> >>:-)
>> >>
>> >>-peter.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>(p.s. Just for a wild stab in the dark I tried setting the "disable
spoolss
=
>> >> yes"
>> >>but this stopped all printing from making it to the computer - even
from
the
>> >>clients that
>> >>were originally working.)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>relevant bits of conf. file included below...
>> >>note that I don't have print command explicitly stated, but testparm
>> >>indicates that it is configured properly...
>> >>
>> >>[global]
>> >>  printing = sysv
>>
>> >> lprm command = /usr/bin/cancel %p-%j
>> >> lppause command = lp -i %p-%j -H hold
>> >> lpresume command = lp -i %p-%j -H resume
>> >> load printers = no
>> >>
>> >>[hp8100DN1]
>> >> printer = hp8100dn_1
>> >>comment = HP LaserJet hp8100 DN
>> >>path = /var/spool/lp/tmp/samba
>> >>guest account = nobody
>> >>guest ok = yes
>> >>browseable = yes
>> >>printable = yes
>> >>writable = yes

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