Lars, > nscd is running, i will try this next, but how does nscd interfere winbind? I don't know how, I just know it does. I used to just restart nscd, but I read somewhere that Tridge says nscd and winbind don't mix. Now I recommend "chkconfig nscd off" when using winbind. -Mike MacIsaac, IBM mikemac at us.ibm.com (845) 433-7061