[Samba] Re: Can't see all of the directories in a share with 2.2.7a-1 & RH8...but older version/kernel can

Chris de Vidal cdevidal at yahoo.com
Fri Jan 31 21:35:13 GMT 2003


--- Joe Gerkman <joe.gerkman at gartner.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 07:47, Chris de Vidal wrote:
> > Update:
> > From a RedHat 8 box with Samba 2.2.7a from a
> Samba.org
> > RPM, I could see 1000 directories on a Windows
> 2000
> > Pro share.
> > 
> > From a RedHat 7.3 box with Samba 2.2.7a from a
> > Samba.org SRPM tweaked to include ACL support, I
> could
> > see 1000 directories on a Windows 2000 Pro share.
> > 
> > I created them with a for loop from my smbmount,
> not
> > from within Windows, in case it matters.
> 
> I figured it wasn't a directory/file number
> limitation, but wasn't
> entirely sure...I guess this confirms it...just as a
> check, were there
> any particularly large files/directories in there? 
> I know that we have
> some directories that can get as big a 8 GB in
> size...just not sure if
> size plays into this at all either...

This is what I did from the RH 8 box:
for ((i=1;i<=1000;i++)); do mkdir $i; done
ls | wc -l
1000

At your question, I made a 2GB file in 10 directories
(I couldn't create a 10GB file.. a Windows problem?):
for ((i=1;i<=10;i++)); do dd if=/dev/zero of=$i/2GB
bs=1M count=2000; done
ls | wc -l
1000

I can't explain it.  Perhaps some weird/corrupt binary
or library?  Try
rpm -Va | grep '^..5' | grep -v ' c ' | less
which will show every non-config file that has been
modified since being installed from its original RPM. 
Look at libraries and binaries in particular.

Reinstall a damaged RPM with
rpm -Uvh --replacepkgs --force some_package.rpm
paying special attention to any .rpmsave/orig/new
files created, which might move an original conf file
(so diff the *.rpmorig/save/new with the existing
file).

Also, ensure you are seeing the exact same files
missing each time:
ls > missing_at_12-24pm.txt
<later, after umounting/remounting>
ls > missing_at_2-56pm.txt
diff missing_at_12-24pm.txt missing_at_2-56pm.txt
Any differences might tell me to look at intermittent
network connectivity... it's yet another shot in the
dark.

Sorry I could not offer more specific help; these are
the troubleshooting steps I go through when looking at
weird problems like these.

> > Someone shared that the permissions were possibly
> > incorrect, but that would only seem to apply to a
> > Samba server, not smbmount.  And you're not using
> a
> > umask, so the default umask is the one from the
> > system, which is 0022, making permissions for
> folders
> > and files 755.
> > 
> > The only thing I can offer now is possibly
> ensuring
> > that the username you access from the 6.2 box is
> the
> > same you use on the 7.x+ boxen.  If the usernames
> were
> > different, perhaps permissions on Windows hide
> those
> > directories from view (but obviously not from cd).
> 
> Yep...same id...same password.
> 
> > Oh, and check the DOS permissions on those
> > directories.. make sure they're not hidden.  I
> don't
> > know if smbmount obeys that, but it's worth a
> shot.
> 
> I'll double-check that and let you know...but as
> most of the directories
> are created by a script (on the windows side), and
> there haven't been
> any changes to the script, they *should* all be the
> same...but again,
> I'll confirm that.
> 
> > /dev/idal
> > 
> Thanks again Chris...
> 
> -Joe
> 
> > --- Chris de Vidal <cdevidal at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > To the list: We've been having some off-list
> > > conversation and I wanted to clue you in here. 
> Our
> > > thread might be useful for posterity's
> (Google's?)
> > > sake.
> > > 
> > > /dev/idal
> > > 
> > > --- Joe Gerkman <joe.gerkman at gartner.com> wrote:
> > > > We're using the following command (from a
> shell
> > > > script):
> > > 
> > > First (this isn't your fix but a nicety), it's
> > > easier
> > > when this is in /etc/fstab instead of with a
> script.
> > > 
> > > It can be done automatically at boot (RedHat
> > > recognizes smbfs types and waits til network is
> > > started) or manually with the noauto option. 
> Then,
> > > you can just run
> > > mount /blahblah/Data
> > > 
> > > If you put your password in a credentials file
> (see
> > > below), you can protect your password.
> > > 
> > > Again, not a fix for your issue but I thought
> you'd
> > > like to know that.
> > > 
> > > > mount -f -t smbfs -o
> > > 
> > > Second, I had to look up -f.  man mount:
> > > -f     Causes everything to be done except for
> the
> > > actual system call; if it's not obvious, this
> > > ``fakes'' mount-ing  the  file  system.  This
> option
> > > is useful in conjunction with the -v flag to
> > > determine
> > > what the mount command is trying to do. It can
> also
> > > be
> > > used to add entries for devices that were
> mounted
> > > earlier with the -n option.
> > > 
> > > I have little confidence this will fix your
> problem,
> > > but please try it without that flag anyway.
> > > 
> > > It's just a shot in the dark...
> > > 
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
username=xxxxxxx,password=xxxxxxx,uid=xxx,gid=xxxxxxxxx,fmask=770,dmask=770
> > > > //blahblah/Data /blahblah/Data
> > > 
> > > Another nicety; use this option with mount or in
> > > your
> > > fstab:
> > > credentials=/some/file/chown/root.root/chmod/600
> > > with
> > > username = someuser
> > > password = somepassword
> > > inside that file.  I like to put mine in
> > > /etc/smb_passwd and I run chown 0.0/chmod 600
> > > against
> > > it.
> > > 
> > > This lets you avoid putting the password in the
> > > (world-readable) fstab.  Just a suggestion.
> > > 
> > > > Same command we've been using for a while now
> (>1
> > > > year)...but then
> > > > again, maybe one of the options could have
> been
> > > > deprecated????
> > > > 
> > > > Also, we installed Samba via the RPMs from
> > > > samba.org...but I've also
> > > > tried building from source (both SRPMs and
> plain
> > > > source)...neither
> > > > changed anything...
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks again for your help Chris....
> > > 
> > > Don't thank me until I can confirm or deny it
> from a
> > > RH 7.3 and 8.0 box to an NT and 2000 Pro (no
> > > Server/Advanced) share (:
> > > 
> > > /dev/idal
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > On Thu, 2003-01-30 at 17:45, Chris de Vidal
> wrote:
> > > > > Whoa, really strange.  Might be something
> you're
> > > > > doing, but I'll post my results to you and
> the
> > > > list
> > > > > tomorrow and we can see if it's a consistent
> > > > problem
> > > > > with RedHat 7+ and 2000.
> > > > > 
> > > > > You are using smbmount or mount smbfs in
> fstab,
> > > > > correct?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Also, how did you install Samba?  I got an
> RPM
> > > > from
> > > > > Samba.org (well, an SRPM so I could tweak
> the
> > > > > ./configure line).
> > > > > 
> > > > > /dev/idal
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- Joe Gerkman <joe.gerkman at gartner.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > > Update...
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > See 554 files on rh8.0/2.2.7a machine, 627
> on
> > > > the
> > > > > > rh6.2/2.0.6-9 machine
> > > > > > (the latter being the true number).  
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Tried copying over the same smb.conf file
> > > (which
> > > > I
> > > > > > thought I'd done
> > > > > > before)...no change/luck.  Also tried the
> same
> > > > > > version of samba on a 7.3
> > > > > > as well as a 7.1 box (same smb.conf file
> > > > too)...no
> > > > > > luck there
> > > > > > either...oh, all had 2.4.x kernel, well
> except
> > > > for
> > > > > > the working machine
> > > > > > (if that matters).
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Thu, 2003-01-30 at 14:05, Chris de
> Vidal
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > You're using smbmount, right?  Sounds
> like
> > > > you're
> > > > > > > seeing only 512 files.. do ls | wc -l. 
> 512
> > > is
> > > > a
> > > > > > nice
> > > > > > > round binary number and is probably what
> > > > you're
> > > > > > > seeing.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I don't have a direct answer, but I'm
> under
> > > > the
> > > > > > > impression that there are many broken
> things
> > > > in
> > > > > > RedHat
> > > > > > > 8.0 (RedHat 7.0 also had many broken
> > > things..
> > > > > > > cooincidence??).  I wrote earlier this
> week
> > > > about
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > RedHat 8-specific problem "cannot find
> name
> > > > for
> > > > > > group
> > > > > > > ID XXXXX".  Others with RedHat 8 have
> shared
> > > > > > similar
> > > > > > > stories, and I'm having no issues with
> the
> > > > same
> > > > > > exact
> > > > > > > version of Samba on a RedHat 7.3 box. 
> I've
> > > > been
> > > > > > using
> > > > > > > RH8 on my main workstation since
> > > introduction
> > > > and
> > > > > > I've
> > > > > > > found other weirdness.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I'm not near my RH8 box at the moment
> but
> > > when
> > > > I
> > > > > > get
> > > > > > > back to work tomorrow I'll test an SMB
> mount
> > > > of a
> > > > > > > Windows NT box.  I could try a 2000 box
> if
> > > > > > necessary. 
> > > > > > > I'll do a wc -l and see what happens.  I
> do
> > > > recall
> > > > > > > having no problems with a Samba server
> > > (2000+
> > > > > > > directories) and I can confirm that
> > > tomorrow.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > First, try copying the smb.conf from the
> 6.2
> > > > box. 
> > > > > > > Smbmount seems to read a few lines from
> it,
> > > > and
> > > > > > there
> > > > > > > is a chance you have differences.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > If you have a RedHat 7.3 box handy,
> install
> > > > the
> > > > > > same
> > > > > > > version of Samba (I agree it doesn't
> sound
> > > > > > > version-specific) and try it.. it'd
> probably
> > > > work
> > > > > > > fine.  I'll try to do the same.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > /dev/idal
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- Joe Gerkman
> <joe.gerkman at gartner.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Hoping someone might be able to steer
> me
> > > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > right direction and/or
> > > > > > > > help me solve my problem.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > We have a number of Linux servers
> (RH6.2
> > > ->
> > > > RH8)
> > > > > > > > which connect to the
> > > > > > > > same share on a Win2000 Server.  We've
> > > been
> > > > > > working
> > > > > > > > kinda hard to get
> > > > > > > > everything upgraded to either RH7.3 or
> > > RH8.0
> > > > > > since
> > > > > > > > we rarely get the
> > > > > > > > opportunity.  2 similar servers (one
> dev,
> > > > one
> > > > > > prod)
> > > > > > > > access this same
> > > > > > > > window share, which has a large number
> of
> > > > > > > > directories (about 620-650),
> > > > > > > > and the share itself is for a 180GB
> > > volume.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Just recently we discovered that our
> dev
> > > > server
> > > > > > > > (RH6.2/2.2.14-5.0 with
> > > > > > > > samba 2.0.6-9) can see all of the
> > > > > > directories/files
> > > > > > > > at the root of this
> > > > > > > > share, but the prod server
> > > > (RH8.0/2.4.18-19.8.0
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > samba 2.2.x ->
> > > > > > > > 2.2.7a-1) can not, it can however see
> a
> > > good
> > > > > > portion
> > > > > > > > of them (about
> > > > > > > > 554). 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > There doesn't seem to be anything in
> > > common
> > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > these "missing"
> > > > > > > > directories...have checked time, size,
> > > > > > etc...nada in
> > > > > > > > common that we can
> > > > > > > > determine.  We did try quite a few
> crazy
> > > > things,
> > > > > > > > like deleting a few
> > > > > > > > directories to see if we saw more, but
> > > nope.
> > > > 
> > > > > > And I
> > > > > > > > should note that the
> > > > > > > > directories are there, you just can't
> see
> > > > > > them...I
> > > > > > > > can 'cd' into them
> > > > > > > > with no problem.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Oh, and I've tried going back to the
> > > earlier
> > > > > > version
> > > > > > > > of samba (same as
> > > > > > > > on the dev machine - 2.0.6-9), but no
> > > luck.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Any ideas?  Anyone?  Please...
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > -J
> > > > > > > > 
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