[Samba] XP Machines/profiles/migration issues

John H Terpstra jht at samba.org
Thu Apr 3 16:35:09 GMT 2003 

On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, Jim Wharton wrote:

> I wasn't aware that there was a Microsoft tool for migrating profiles.
> (Nothing short of sticking a CD in the drive of course... ;-)

On MS Windows 2000 Pro log on as the local administrator.
Right click on 'My Computer' icon, select properties.
Left click on 'User Profiles' tab
Select the profile you wish to convert (migrate)
Click on 'Copy To' button
In the permitted to use box, click on the 'Change' button
Click on 'Look in' area that lists the machine name, click there to open
up a selection box. Click on the domain to which the profile must be
accessible. Note: You will need to log onto any domain you might choose.

Note2: You may temporarily want to assign the right to use to 'Everyone'

Click 'Ok'
Click 'Ok' again.
Done.

Under Samba-3.0.0 you can do further editting with the 'profiles' tool.

- John T.

>
> What is it?
>
> Jim
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John H Terpstra [mailto:jht at samba.org]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 11:16 PM
> > To: Jim Wharton
> > Cc: samba at lists.samba.org
> > Subject: Re: [Samba] XP Machines/profiles/migration issues
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 2 Apr 2003, Jim Wharton wrote:
> >
> > > Would it be possible to use this tool (profile3) to copy an
> > NT4 profile to a
> > > 2000 box? It must be possible to do it since MS can do it
> > during an upgrade.
> > > Does anyone know of a tool for this.
> >
> > Yes, you could use the 'profiles' to from samba-3 to do this, but why?
> > You could also use the Microsoft tool to migrate profiles. If
> > you can wait
> > a few days I will finish documenting this in the
> > Samba-HOWTO-Collection.pdf file that will be in the
> > Samba-3.0.0 branch.
> >
> > - John T.
> >
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Buchan Milne" <bgmilne at cae.co.za>
> > > To: "Anthony Hardy" <mis at jdcc.edu>
> > > Cc: <samba at lists.samba.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:41 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Samba] XP Machines/profiles/migration issues
> > >
> > >
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> > > > > Date: 01 Apr 2003 10:11:01 +1000
> > > > > From: richard <rcoates at bigpond.net.au>
> > > > > To: Anthony Hardy <mis at jdcc.edu>
> > > > > Cc: "samba at lists.samba.org" <samba at lists.samba.org>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Samba] XP Machines/profiles/migration issues
> > > > > Message-ID: <1049155862.2283.18.camel at mynewbox>
> > > > > In-Reply-To: <00d301c2f7b0$f390c0d0$fb020a0a at misdir>
> > > > > References: <00d301c2f7b0$f390c0d0$fb020a0a at misdir>
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> > > > > Message: 5
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm no expert on Xp profiles but..doesen't xp assign a
> > sid to each user
> > > > > in the profile. I believe you'll have to create your
> > new domain-user on
> > > > > new server THEN copy old profile over newly created one
> > (using xp user
> > > > > tools). There have posts on how to do this earlier this
> > year. regards,
> > > > > Richard Coates.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Well, this will not fix the ntuser.dat, since the ACLs in
> > the file will
> > > > still have the old SIDs.
> > > >
> > > > > On Tue, 2003-04-01 at 04:11, Anthony Hardy wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>> well . would help if i didn't hit the send key before
> > pasting in the
> > > > >>> original msg . once again . my apologies
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> btw . helpful info:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> mandrake rpms at 2.2.7a, mandrake 9.0 . .all patches applied.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I just sent this . but realized i sent it from the
> > wrong email addy
> > > > . want
> > > > >>> to make sure it gets thru to the list . so i'm resending . i
> > > > apologize if
> > > > >>> both copies make it thru.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> problem:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> migrating from one server to another .  . .physical
> > and software
> > > > migration.
> > > > >>> copied all profiles and am in the process of adding a
> > new automated
> > > > system
> > > > >>> for domain management (mysql backend, blah balh) so the uid's
> > > > changed for
> > > > >>> each user.
> > > > >>>
> > > >
> > > > Are you using the samba mysql sam backend (is that in
> > 2.2.x, if not, you
> > > >  may want to try samba3).
> > > >
> > > > Also, LDAP may be a better backend for 2.2.x.
> > > >
> > > > >>> this is what how i THOUGHT things would work:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> 1. everyone logs out
> > > > >>> 2. shutdown samba on old server
> > > > >>> 3. add new users to new server
> > > > >>> 4. transfer ALL data to new server, including profiles, setup
> > > > permissions on
> > > > >>> files to correspond with new uids
> > > > >>> 5. finish config of smb.conf on new server, adding the proper
> > > > shares, etc .
> > > > >>> basically a mirror of the old box.
> > > > >>> 6. start up new server . . .login 9x machines for testing.
> > > > >>> 7. rejoin all XP machines to the domain, and i should
> > have been good
> > > > to go.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> the problem lies in that once i rejoin an XP machine
> > (testing with a
> > > > couple
> > > > >>> right now) is that the profiles don't load properly.
> > the user logs
> > > in,
> > > > >>> everything "seems" to be ok . in that the desktop
> > icons are present,
> > > > custom
> > > > >>> apps seem to work . .but pieces are broken.
> > > > >>>
> > > >
> > > > Chances are that if you need to rejoin machines to the
> > domain, you are
> > > > going to need to fix the profiles. You should aim not to
> > need to rejoin
> > > > machines.
> > > >
> > > > >>> for example . . .OE or outlook . broken.  it's like
> > the ntuser.dat
> > > file
> > > > >>> doesn't get pulled .. .
> > > >
> > > > Probably becuase the ACLs in the profile itself don't
> > allow the user to
> > > > read the settings.
> > > >
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> i noticed that under documents and settings on the
> > local machines HD
> > > the
> > > > >>> owner wasn't correct for the correct profile
> > directory (normally,
> > > > just the
> > > > >>> user name) and upon logging in . there was a new
> > profile directory
> > > > created,
> > > > >>> username.domain.  That "should" have been fine i
> > thought . .as long
> > > > as  the
> > > > >>> profile was copied from the network . but it's NOT
> > being copied .
> > > > . . .so
> > > > >>> i tried different machines . and various tests . from
> > rejoining the
> > > > domain
> > > > >>> and changing permission BEFORE logging in as the user
> > to  . .well .
> > > > >>> everything i can think of.
> > > > >>>
> > > >
> > > > If you don't repair the profile, you will have to delete it first.
> > > >
> > > > >>> so . my question is two fold . .is there any reason
> > an XP machine
> > > > that DID
> > > > >>> copy profiles from the network BEFORE the change
> > wouldn't copy them
> > > now?
> > > >
> > > > Yes, the SIDs have changed.
> > > >
> > > > >>> logon path and logon home variables are the SAME and
> > my 9x machines
> > > WORK
> > > > >>> fine
> > > >
> > > > 98 doesn't have SIDs, NT, 2k and XP do.
> > > >
> > > > >>> . .i've got about 100 XP machines out there tho .
> > .and i NEED this to
> > > > >>> work . .or i'm going to attempt to go back to the old server.
> > > > >>>
> > > >
> > > > It may be possible for you to fix this using the profiles
> > binary in
> > > > samba3. Easiest way for you to do that is to install
> > samba3-server and
> > > > samba3-common alpha22 (haven't gotten around to building
> > alpha23 yet
> > > > ...) from here:
> > > >
> > > > http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake/9.0/samba3/
> > > >
> > > > These packages are made to parallel-install with Mandrake
> > samba-2.2.x
> > > > RPMs, so they are safe to use (just check the smb3 is off
> > with chkconfig
> > > > after installing it)
> > > >
> > > > Then,  run
> > > > # profiles3
> > > >
> > > > I have forgotten how to use it, but just read the --help,
> > iy has an
> > > > option for changing SIDs.
> > > >
> > > > Just ensure your existing profiles are backed up.
> > > >
> > > > Buchan
> > > >
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