[Samba] Cannot see the samba server in Network Neighbourhood

Mark Frayling mark.frayling at asa.co.uk
Thu Oct 31 11:00:07 GMT 2002


Noel

I have kept all the names the same on the new build as they were on the 
old build.  The new build is the same box, but a new physical disk,so i 
disconnect the one that i am not booting from.

I have copied in the list too, so someone may see this and twig it, 
hopefully.

Thanks again

--Mark

Noel Kelly wrote:

> Ah right.
>  
> The netbios name of your new server is different from the old one 
> right?  If they are as you say, identical, then that could be the 
> basic problem - you need to give the new server a differnet name or 
> disconnect the old one.
>  
> Yes that screen shot threw me!
>  
> Might be a good idea to copy in the list - there are guys out there 
> who are far, far more experienced than me with this stuff.  Bu i'll 
> keep chipping in as much as i can :)
>  
>  
>  
> Cheers
> Noel
>  
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     *From:* Mark Frayling [mailto:mark.frayling at asa.co.uk]
>     *Sent:* 31 October 2002 10:36
>     *To:* Noel Kelly
>     *Subject:* Re: [Samba] Cannot see the samba server in Network
>     Neighbourhood
>
>     Hi Noel
>
>     Sorry to keep bothering you, please tell me if you would like me
>     to pass this on to the samba forum instead.
>
>     I have checked the /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow files on the old
>     build and compared against the new build.  There seems to be no
>     entries in either for any users or workstations.  It looks as
>     though it is only the smbpasswd that we use for authentication,
>     which i have copied across from the old build to the new build.
>
>     I think i may have confused you also as i cannot see the new build
>     machine in my Network Neighbourhood, ONLY the old build, which is
>     the screen shot i sent to you.
>
>     There appears to be no entry in either the /etc/passwd or
>     /etc/shadow files on either the old or the new build for anything
>     to do with security or domain.
>
>     I have printed the document you suggested, which i am currently
>     looking through.  I think what i am experiencing is a simple
>     fundamental error that i cannot help but overlook, and the fact
>     that my understanding od SAMBA is currently minimal....
>
>     Thanks in advance for your help.
>
>     --Mark
>
>
>
>     Noel Kelly wrote:
>
>>     OK so you can see it but cannot access the shares?
>>      
>>     Your log file is set to "log file = /var/log/smb" and it show this:
>>      
>>     [2002/10/28 14:27:58, 0] smbd/password.c:domain_client_validate(1517)
>>       domain_client_validate: could not fetch trust account password
>>     for domain WORKGROUP
>>     [2002/10/28 14:27:58, 0] smbd/service.c:make_connection(249)
>>       troy (193.195.233.14) couldn't find service janeth
>>     [2002/10/28 14:27:58, 0] smbd/service.c:make_connection(249)
>>       troy (193.195.233.14) couldn't find service janeth
>>     [2002/10/28 14:27:58, 0] smbd/service.c:make_connection(249)
>>       troy (193.195.233.14) couldn't find service janet
>>      
>>     I think you need to copy more than just the smbpasswd -
>>     'security=domain' requries an entry in the /etc/passwd file as
>>     well so you might need to transpose the relevant bits of
>>     /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow as well.   Each of the workstations
>>     needs to have an account as well in the from 'workstation$'. 
>>     Have a look at the /etc/passwd on the original server and you
>>     will no doubt see such entries.
>>      
>>     Try a 'man smb.conf' and look under the 'security' parameter.
>>      
>>     I think there is some good info in this document -
>>     http://samba.mirror.ac.uk/samba/docs/Samba-HOWTO-Collection.pdf
>>      
>>     HTH
>>      
>>      
>>      
>>      
>>      
>>      
>>      
>>
>>         -----Original Message-----
>>         *From:* Mark Frayling [mailto:mark.frayling at asa.co.uk]
>>         *Sent:* 29 October 2002 15:05
>>         *To:* Noel Kelly
>>         *Subject:* Re: [Samba] Cannot see the samba server in Network
>>         Neighbourhood
>>
>>         Noel
>>         I have attached a current screen dump of my network
>>         neighbourhood.  This on IS working ok as i have had to revert
>>         back to the old build disk to keep users working.  I will
>>         then change back to the new build the one not working this
>>         evening to play around with it.
>>
>>         The machine 'cabi' is the samba server, which can be seen at
>>         the moment.  With the new build though, cabi cannot be seen,
>>         even though i can see it across the network via ping etc.
>>
>>         My workstation is currently set to workgroup called WORKGROUP
>>         and is set to use cabi, the samba server, as a WINS server.
>>
>>         Not sure what you mean by the samba server being in its own
>>         workgroup.  So if the default workgroup on samba is workgroup
>>         i take it then that i do not have to add this in.
>>
>>         Thanks
>>
>>         --Mark
>>
>>
>>         Noel Kelly wrote:
>>
>>>         Mark,
>>>          
>>>         Looking at it, your Samba server is configured to be the
>>>         Master Browser (ie all the other machines on the network
>>>         register with it and it is this list which is displayed in
>>>         the Network Neighbourhood.  Troubleshooting this stuff is
>>>         always a game as the browse list can take up to 15 mins to
>>>         update).  Each Windoze machine has an OS level with which to
>>>         win a browser election.  The most lowly being a Win95
>>>         machine and the highest being a Win2000 Server.  Samba you
>>>         can adjust this with the os level= parameter.  So being set
>>>         to be the wins server (wins support = yes) but having a OS
>>>         level of 2 (effetively nothing) is a little odd although the
>>>         logs hsow it winning the election.
>>>          
>>>         The Workgroup parameter should be set to whatever your
>>>         workgroup/domain name your Windows network has been given. 
>>>         By default they belong to the workgroup 'Workgroup'.  I
>>>         suspect you need to change this - when you are browsing the
>>>         neighbourhood, what is the top level name?  Probably the
>>>         Samba server is in its own workgroup and hence not showing
>>>         up in the neighbourhood.
>>>          
>>>         HTH
>>>         Noel
>>>
>>>             -----Original Message-----
>>>             *From:* Mark Frayling [mailto:mark.frayling at asa.co.uk]
>>>             *Sent:* 29 October 2002 14:40
>>>             *To:* Noel Kelly
>>>             *Subject:* Re: [Samba] Cannot see the samba server in
>>>             Network Neighbourhood
>>>
>>>             Noel
>>>
>>>             I am a little uncertain as to all this browsing stuff,
>>>             ie master browser etc.
>>>
>>>             I take it then that the samba server should not be the
>>>             master browser, if not what should, or is there no
>>>             master browser.  How do i change this?
>>>
>>>             Is my smb.conf file ok with this later version of samba?
>>>
>>>             I have noticed that the later version has an entry in
>>>             the smb.conf file for 'WORKGROUP', my older smb.conf
>>>             file appears not to have this entry?
>>>
>>>             Thanks
>>>
>>>             --Mark
>>>
>>>             Noel Kelly wrote:
>>>
>>>>**************************************************************************
>>>>This Message Was Virus Checked With : SAVI 3.61 September 2002 
>>>>Last Updated 11th October 2002
>>>>**************************************************************************
>>>>
>>>>Mark,
>>>>
>>>>Yes clearly your Samba machine is becoming the master browser from the log
>>>>but I am suspicious of the 'os level' parameter being set to 2 (see below).
>>>>
>>>>You can search the archives at  http://marc.theaimsgroup.com (see
>>>>http://samba.mirror.ac.uk/samba/archives.html)
>>>>
>>>>HTH
>>>>Noel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> os level (G)
>>>>              This integer value controls what level Samba advertises
>>>>itself  as
>>>>              for  browse  elections.  The  value  of  this  parameter
>>>>determines
>>>>              whether nmbd(8) has a chance of becoming a local master
>>>>browser for
>>>>              the  WORKGROUP in the local broadcast area.
>>>>
>>>>              Note  :By  default, Samba will win a local master browsing
>>>>election
>>>>              over all Microsoft operating systems except a Windows  NT
>>>>4.0/2000
>>>>              Domain  Controller.  This means that a misconfigured Samba
>>>>host can
>>>>              effectively isolate a subnet  for  browsing  purposes.  See
>>>>BROWS-
>>>>              ING.txt in the Samba docs/ directory for details.
>>>>
>>>>              Default: os level = 20
>>>>
>>>>              Example: os level = 65
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Mark Frayling [mailto:mark.frayling at asa.co.uk]
>>>>Sent: 29 October 2002 13:51
>>>>To: Noel Kelly
>>>>Subject: Re: [Samba] Cannot see the samba server in Network
>>>>Neighbourhood
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Noel
>>>>
>>>>Thx for the quick reply.
>>>>
>>>>I have attached my smb.conf file along with the relevant log files.
>>>>
>>>>This setup, using the attached smb.conf file has been working ok with an 
>>>>older version of samba, how do i tell what version i am running?
>>>>
>>>>I installed SuSE version 8.0 which ships with a newer version and once 
>>>>installed i thought it would be a simple job of copying over my smb.conf 
>>>>and smbpasswd files.
>>>>
>>>>nmbd -D and smbd -D are running ok.
>>>>
>>>>I am not sure what you mean about the WINS server being used by another? 
>>>> I thought it had to run as a WINS server to handle the NetBIOS traffic 
>>>>to it?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks again
>>>>
>>>>--Mark
>>>>
>>>>PS
>>>>
>>>>I have been trying to search for past postings, is there such a place?
>>>>
>>>>Noel Kelly wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>>**************************************************************************
>>>>>This Message Was Virus Checked With : SAVI 3.61 September 2002 
>>>>>Last Updated 11th October 2002
>>>>>**************************************************************************
>>>>>
>>>>>It would be helpful if you could post you smb.conf and let us know what
>>>>>    
>>>>>
>>>>role
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>>the Samba machine is taking in the network. Sounds like the Samba machine
>>>>>could be set to be a wins server but is being usurped by another server?
>>>>>
>>>>>Also check your nmbd log file and check nmbd is actually running.
>>>>>
>>>>>Noel
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Mark Frayling [mailto:mark.frayling at asa.co.uk]
>>>>>Sent: 29 October 2002 12:56
>>>>>To: samba at lists.samba.org
>>>>>Subject: [Samba] Cannot see the samba server in Network Neighbourhood
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi
>>>>>I am a newbie to samba after taking over from a previous administrator.
>>>>>
>>>>>I have upgraded to the version that ships with SuSE linux 8.0 and copied 
>>>>>over the old smb.config and smbpasswd files.
>>>>>
>>>>>I can see the shares from a remote SWAT connection and also using the 
>>>>>interactive method via a DOS window, but cannot get the shares to be 
>>>>>seen via Network Neighbourhood.  I am thinking that this may be a 
>>>>>NetBios problem, but cannot pinpoint it.
>>>>>Any help would be muchly appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>>    
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>
>>>-- 
>>>Mark Frayling
>>>IT Systems Administrator
>>>Advanced System Architectures Ltd
>>>    
>>>
>>>
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