[Samba] Cannot see the samba server in Network Neighbourhood
Mark Frayling
mark.frayling at asa.co.uk
Thu Oct 31 11:00:07 GMT 2002
Noel
I have kept all the names the same on the new build as they were on the
old build. The new build is the same box, but a new physical disk,so i
disconnect the one that i am not booting from.
I have copied in the list too, so someone may see this and twig it,
hopefully.
Thanks again
--Mark
Noel Kelly wrote:
> Ah right.
>
> The netbios name of your new server is different from the old one
> right? If they are as you say, identical, then that could be the
> basic problem - you need to give the new server a differnet name or
> disconnect the old one.
>
> Yes that screen shot threw me!
>
> Might be a good idea to copy in the list - there are guys out there
> who are far, far more experienced than me with this stuff. Bu i'll
> keep chipping in as much as i can :)
>
>
>
> Cheers
> Noel
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Mark Frayling [mailto:mark.frayling at asa.co.uk]
> *Sent:* 31 October 2002 10:36
> *To:* Noel Kelly
> *Subject:* Re: [Samba] Cannot see the samba server in Network
> Neighbourhood
>
> Hi Noel
>
> Sorry to keep bothering you, please tell me if you would like me
> to pass this on to the samba forum instead.
>
> I have checked the /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow files on the old
> build and compared against the new build. There seems to be no
> entries in either for any users or workstations. It looks as
> though it is only the smbpasswd that we use for authentication,
> which i have copied across from the old build to the new build.
>
> I think i may have confused you also as i cannot see the new build
> machine in my Network Neighbourhood, ONLY the old build, which is
> the screen shot i sent to you.
>
> There appears to be no entry in either the /etc/passwd or
> /etc/shadow files on either the old or the new build for anything
> to do with security or domain.
>
> I have printed the document you suggested, which i am currently
> looking through. I think what i am experiencing is a simple
> fundamental error that i cannot help but overlook, and the fact
> that my understanding od SAMBA is currently minimal....
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> --Mark
>
>
>
> Noel Kelly wrote:
>
>> OK so you can see it but cannot access the shares?
>>
>> Your log file is set to "log file = /var/log/smb" and it show this:
>>
>> [2002/10/28 14:27:58, 0] smbd/password.c:domain_client_validate(1517)
>> domain_client_validate: could not fetch trust account password
>> for domain WORKGROUP
>> [2002/10/28 14:27:58, 0] smbd/service.c:make_connection(249)
>> troy (193.195.233.14) couldn't find service janeth
>> [2002/10/28 14:27:58, 0] smbd/service.c:make_connection(249)
>> troy (193.195.233.14) couldn't find service janeth
>> [2002/10/28 14:27:58, 0] smbd/service.c:make_connection(249)
>> troy (193.195.233.14) couldn't find service janet
>>
>> I think you need to copy more than just the smbpasswd -
>> 'security=domain' requries an entry in the /etc/passwd file as
>> well so you might need to transpose the relevant bits of
>> /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow as well. Each of the workstations
>> needs to have an account as well in the from 'workstation$'.
>> Have a look at the /etc/passwd on the original server and you
>> will no doubt see such entries.
>>
>> Try a 'man smb.conf' and look under the 'security' parameter.
>>
>> I think there is some good info in this document -
>> http://samba.mirror.ac.uk/samba/docs/Samba-HOWTO-Collection.pdf
>>
>> HTH
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> *From:* Mark Frayling [mailto:mark.frayling at asa.co.uk]
>> *Sent:* 29 October 2002 15:05
>> *To:* Noel Kelly
>> *Subject:* Re: [Samba] Cannot see the samba server in Network
>> Neighbourhood
>>
>> Noel
>> I have attached a current screen dump of my network
>> neighbourhood. This on IS working ok as i have had to revert
>> back to the old build disk to keep users working. I will
>> then change back to the new build the one not working this
>> evening to play around with it.
>>
>> The machine 'cabi' is the samba server, which can be seen at
>> the moment. With the new build though, cabi cannot be seen,
>> even though i can see it across the network via ping etc.
>>
>> My workstation is currently set to workgroup called WORKGROUP
>> and is set to use cabi, the samba server, as a WINS server.
>>
>> Not sure what you mean by the samba server being in its own
>> workgroup. So if the default workgroup on samba is workgroup
>> i take it then that i do not have to add this in.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> --Mark
>>
>>
>> Noel Kelly wrote:
>>
>>> Mark,
>>>
>>> Looking at it, your Samba server is configured to be the
>>> Master Browser (ie all the other machines on the network
>>> register with it and it is this list which is displayed in
>>> the Network Neighbourhood. Troubleshooting this stuff is
>>> always a game as the browse list can take up to 15 mins to
>>> update). Each Windoze machine has an OS level with which to
>>> win a browser election. The most lowly being a Win95
>>> machine and the highest being a Win2000 Server. Samba you
>>> can adjust this with the os level= parameter. So being set
>>> to be the wins server (wins support = yes) but having a OS
>>> level of 2 (effetively nothing) is a little odd although the
>>> logs hsow it winning the election.
>>>
>>> The Workgroup parameter should be set to whatever your
>>> workgroup/domain name your Windows network has been given.
>>> By default they belong to the workgroup 'Workgroup'. I
>>> suspect you need to change this - when you are browsing the
>>> neighbourhood, what is the top level name? Probably the
>>> Samba server is in its own workgroup and hence not showing
>>> up in the neighbourhood.
>>>
>>> HTH
>>> Noel
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> *From:* Mark Frayling [mailto:mark.frayling at asa.co.uk]
>>> *Sent:* 29 October 2002 14:40
>>> *To:* Noel Kelly
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Samba] Cannot see the samba server in
>>> Network Neighbourhood
>>>
>>> Noel
>>>
>>> I am a little uncertain as to all this browsing stuff,
>>> ie master browser etc.
>>>
>>> I take it then that the samba server should not be the
>>> master browser, if not what should, or is there no
>>> master browser. How do i change this?
>>>
>>> Is my smb.conf file ok with this later version of samba?
>>>
>>> I have noticed that the later version has an entry in
>>> the smb.conf file for 'WORKGROUP', my older smb.conf
>>> file appears not to have this entry?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> --Mark
>>>
>>> Noel Kelly wrote:
>>>
>>>>**************************************************************************
>>>>This Message Was Virus Checked With : SAVI 3.61 September 2002
>>>>Last Updated 11th October 2002
>>>>**************************************************************************
>>>>
>>>>Mark,
>>>>
>>>>Yes clearly your Samba machine is becoming the master browser from the log
>>>>but I am suspicious of the 'os level' parameter being set to 2 (see below).
>>>>
>>>>You can search the archives at http://marc.theaimsgroup.com (see
>>>>http://samba.mirror.ac.uk/samba/archives.html)
>>>>
>>>>HTH
>>>>Noel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> os level (G)
>>>> This integer value controls what level Samba advertises
>>>>itself as
>>>> for browse elections. The value of this parameter
>>>>determines
>>>> whether nmbd(8) has a chance of becoming a local master
>>>>browser for
>>>> the WORKGROUP in the local broadcast area.
>>>>
>>>> Note :By default, Samba will win a local master browsing
>>>>election
>>>> over all Microsoft operating systems except a Windows NT
>>>>4.0/2000
>>>> Domain Controller. This means that a misconfigured Samba
>>>>host can
>>>> effectively isolate a subnet for browsing purposes. See
>>>>BROWS-
>>>> ING.txt in the Samba docs/ directory for details.
>>>>
>>>> Default: os level = 20
>>>>
>>>> Example: os level = 65
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Mark Frayling [mailto:mark.frayling at asa.co.uk]
>>>>Sent: 29 October 2002 13:51
>>>>To: Noel Kelly
>>>>Subject: Re: [Samba] Cannot see the samba server in Network
>>>>Neighbourhood
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Noel
>>>>
>>>>Thx for the quick reply.
>>>>
>>>>I have attached my smb.conf file along with the relevant log files.
>>>>
>>>>This setup, using the attached smb.conf file has been working ok with an
>>>>older version of samba, how do i tell what version i am running?
>>>>
>>>>I installed SuSE version 8.0 which ships with a newer version and once
>>>>installed i thought it would be a simple job of copying over my smb.conf
>>>>and smbpasswd files.
>>>>
>>>>nmbd -D and smbd -D are running ok.
>>>>
>>>>I am not sure what you mean about the WINS server being used by another?
>>>> I thought it had to run as a WINS server to handle the NetBIOS traffic
>>>>to it?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks again
>>>>
>>>>--Mark
>>>>
>>>>PS
>>>>
>>>>I have been trying to search for past postings, is there such a place?
>>>>
>>>>Noel Kelly wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>**************************************************************************
>>>>>This Message Was Virus Checked With : SAVI 3.61 September 2002
>>>>>Last Updated 11th October 2002
>>>>>**************************************************************************
>>>>>
>>>>>It would be helpful if you could post you smb.conf and let us know what
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>role
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>the Samba machine is taking in the network. Sounds like the Samba machine
>>>>>could be set to be a wins server but is being usurped by another server?
>>>>>
>>>>>Also check your nmbd log file and check nmbd is actually running.
>>>>>
>>>>>Noel
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Mark Frayling [mailto:mark.frayling at asa.co.uk]
>>>>>Sent: 29 October 2002 12:56
>>>>>To: samba at lists.samba.org
>>>>>Subject: [Samba] Cannot see the samba server in Network Neighbourhood
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi
>>>>>I am a newbie to samba after taking over from a previous administrator.
>>>>>
>>>>>I have upgraded to the version that ships with SuSE linux 8.0 and copied
>>>>>over the old smb.config and smbpasswd files.
>>>>>
>>>>>I can see the shares from a remote SWAT connection and also using the
>>>>>interactive method via a DOS window, but cannot get the shares to be
>>>>>seen via Network Neighbourhood. I am thinking that this may be a
>>>>>NetBios problem, but cannot pinpoint it.
>>>>>Any help would be muchly appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>Mark Frayling
>>>IT Systems Administrator
>>>Advanced System Architectures Ltd
>>>
>>>
>>>
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