[Samba] Win98 join a PDC

[Van Sickler, Jim]

Log in from the W98 client and run smbstatus
on the server, to see what shows up....

You can set the log level to 3 or higher, and
look in the log.w98pc (or whatever the hostname is)
during the failed/successful attempts to see
why it fails the first time and works the second.

The same (domain?) user account is being used on
both the Win2k/W98 login attempts?

Jim

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alex Moen [mailto:alexm at ndtel.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 12:16 PM
> To: Van Sickler, Jim; samba at samba.org
> Subject: RE: [Samba] Win98 join a PDC
> 
> 
> Tried this... didn't help.
> 
> An update: I got the Win2K machine to finally join the domain 
> using "root"
> and it's password.  I hate that, but I am using a different 
> password for the
> samba side than the Unix side.
> 
> Also, I can log in using my regular domain account on the Win2K server
> perfectly.  So, obviously samba is configured properly, and there's
> something specific to Win98 that I am missing...
> 
> It is ultimately consistent in logging in every other time... 
> even after a
> logout, it takes two login attempts to get back in on the 
> Win98 client.
> 
> Wierd.
> 
> Alex
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: samba-admin at lists.samba.org 
> [mailto:samba-admin at lists.samba.org]On
> > Behalf Of Van Sickler, Jim
> > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 12:28 PM
> > To: 'Alex Moen'; samba at samba.org
> > Subject: RE: [Samba] Win98 join a PDC
> >
> >
> > Make sure the clients/server have the server
> > info in their hosts/lmhosts files.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Alex Moen [mailto:alexm at ndtel.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 6:02 AM
> > > To: samba at samba.org
> > > Subject: RE: [Samba] Win98 join a PDC
> > >
> > >
> > > Good information, and I will definitely investigate this. 
>  However, my
> > > domain right now is in a test situation (working on replacing
> > > an NT 4.0
> > > domain with this) and is not on our main network which does
> > > consist of Cisco
> > > switches.  I have it set up on a small cheapo switch,
> > > isolated from the main
> > > network, where the only thing that is on the switch is the
> > > Samba box, the
> > > W2K box, and the W98 client.  Also, DHCP shows no signs of
> > > any problems: the
> > > workstation gets an address with no delay.
> > >
> > > Any other ideas that I can try?
> > >
> > > Thanks!!
> > >
> > > Alex
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: samba-admin at lists.samba.org
> > > [mailto:samba-admin at lists.samba.org]On
> > > > Behalf Of Mac
> > > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:58 AM
> > > > To: samba at samba.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [Samba] Win98 join a PDC
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: Dirk Allaert <da at schaubroeck.be>
> > > > >To: Alex Moen <alexm at ndtel.com>
> > > > >Cc: samba at lists.samba.org
> > > > >Subject: Re: [Samba] Win98 join a PDC
> > > > >Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 10:46:32 +0200
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Alex Moen wrote:
> > > > >> Wierd thing #1:  Windows 98 client will NOT connect on
> > > first attempt:
> > > > >> type in username and password, hit enter, wait 2 
> minutes, failure
> > > > >> message.  Click OK on the failure popup, hit enter again
> > > on the login
> > > > >> dialogue, wait another 2 minutes and client logs in almost
> > > > perfectly (by
> > > > >> almost: trouble with home directory %u thingie).  Any ideas?
> > > > >>
> > > > >I am not sure this is a samba issue. I have also seen 
> this once a
> > > > >Windows NT 4 PDC and a somebody reported me this on a
> > > Windows 2000 ADC
> > > > >(always with windows 98). Seemed to have to do with
> > > networking stuff.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >I the Windows 2000 case, the guy that told me had
> > > contacted CISCO (they
> > > > >were using a CISCO layer 3 switch) and CISCO changed some
> > > stuff on the
> > > > >switch (don't know what). Same scenario for NT 4 case:
> > > Baystack switch,
> > > > >PC's with Accton network card. Changed speed on switches
> > > (half duplex).
> > > > >Problem did not completely disappear but sure improved.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This sounds highly likely.  The Cisco 'stuff' they changed
> > > was probably
> > > > 'portfast'.
> > > >
> > > > See:-
> > > >
> > > > 	http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/12.html
> > > >
> > > > for an explnation of why it can tkae upto a minute for a
> > > switch to start
> > > > passing packets after the PC has come up.  Also some (Cisco
> > > specific)
> > > > steps you can take (with detailed instructions) to reduce
> > > the problem.
> > > > [One of the steps is to twiddle duplex settings, but it's
> > > the very last
> > > > thing to try].
> > > >
> > > >
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