[Samba] NT Backups

Greg Freemyer freemyer at NorcrossGroup.com
Mon Mar 18 16:14:29 GMT 2002


Ron,

If I were you, I would seriously consider a commercial product.

I have been looking around and I have not found any OpenSource solution for =
doing what you want that backs up the NT security info.  (i.e. the ACLs).

Even running the standard (i.e. free/included) Win2000 backup software by hand =
and sending the output to a Samba Share does not capture this data.

I don't now anything about Novanet (below), but the price seems very =
reasonable.

Note:=20
Yes I know that there are ways to backup the Samba Share complete with ACLs.  =
The hard part is backing up a connected NT server complete with ACLs.

Greg Freemyer
Internet Engineer
Deployment and Integration Specialist
The Norcross Group
www.NorcrossGroup.com



 >>  Not nearly so much fun, but I just revamped our setup with a Novanet 8.5
 >>  for
 >>  Linux solution.  $500 gives you a central backup server license and
 >>  unlimited client licenses for all your Linux and Windows machines.  Took
 >>  about 20 mins to install the server, five windows/linux clients and setup
 >>  up
 >>  the backup regime.

 >>  We have actually been using Novanet for a couple of years now, backing up
 >>  Novell, Windows and Linux onto the one tape.  Works well.  Occasionally
 >>  the
 >>  tape rotation software has issues but it gets the job done.  We also do a
 >>  backup on some assorted webservers on two different leased lines.  The
 >>  central Novanet Linux machine sits there with two NICs for each network
 >>  and
 >>  scoops it all onto one tape each night.  Everything bar the Novanet ports
 >>  are closed down (couple of high UDP ones - forget off the top of my head)
 >>  so
 >>  it is pretty secure as well.

 >>  Noel

 >>  -----Original Message-----
 >>  From: The Fresh Prince of Darkness [mailto:ghstwrtr at evilgenius.net]
 >>  Sent: 15 March 2002 20:59
 >>  To: samba at lists.samba.org
 >>  Subject: [Samba] NT Backups


 >>  Given that rsync, smbclient and smbmount are all kissin' cousins, this=20
 >>  seems like a good place to post this question.  I'm building a linux=20
 >>  backup server which will be archiving other linux and some NT servers.

 >>  The Linux boxes are being rsynced over ssh, so everything is happy=20
 >>  there.  The NT servers were initially going to be smbmounted and=20
 >>  rsynced, but this ended up hanging about 30% of the time on servers with=20
 >>  large amounts of data.

 >>  The next idea was to use smbclient -T and pipe it to tar -x and straight=20
 >>  into it's proper place.  I was going to use the Windows archive bit to=20
 >>  ensure that only changed files are brought in every night.  This has the=20
 >>  problem that deletions are not accounted for and thus the backups would=20
 >>  swell uncontrolled.

 >>  I tried running n rsync daemon (Service) on the NT box, but rsync=20
 >>  wouldn't run as anyone but user nobody (or whatever the windows=20
 >>  equivalent is) so this made it impractical for user directories, and=20
 >>  such.  This was several months back, so I don't know if that's been=20
 >>  changed since.

 >>  I'm now considering writing a perl hack which would do a recursive=20
 >>  smbclient ls on the share and compare it against the mirror archive.=20
 >>  This seems like a very cumbersome way to do this.

 >>  Another alternative is Cygwin, but in order to maximize portability, I'd=20
 >>  rather limit the amount of configuration necesary on the client side..

 >>  Has anyone had to do something similar with more success than I've had?=20
 >>  any pointers would be appreciated.

 >>  -Ron


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