[Samba] taking ownership

Samba Samba at guidemail.com
Thu Jul 25 04:49:02 GMT 2002

I'm confused, what does taking ownership really gain us here?

Most cases where more than one person needs access to a folder, you use
groups.  When one person leaves, if permissions are setup correctly, the
other memebers of the group still have access to the file/folders.  

The only case where I think you might have a folder where only ONE person
has rights is in their home folder, but I think the admin _should_ be
involved with handing out access to those files.

I guess if you're using quotas you would need to keep accurate track of who
owns what file/folder.  Don't know anything about them so I can't help much

The only purpose for take ownership in the M$ NT world is because there is
no root account which always has rights.  

Am I totally off base here ??


-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Helmer [mailto:robert at namodn.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 10:14 PM
To: samba at lists.samba.org
Subject: Re: [Samba] taking ownership

Hi Sven,

On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 04:31:57AM +0200, Sven K?hler wrote:
> i wonder if this is possible?
> i think the right of "changing ACLs" is dependant on who created the 
> file which might lead to chaos within a directory many users do access.

I did some reading on it ( howtos, archives from the -devel list ) and
it appears that this feature is not implemented in Samba. Changing
ownership is something only root can do on Unix systems, whereas NT
systems allow this kind of behavior ( the "Take Ownership" bit doesn't
seem to mean anything in Posix ACLs either ).

So, I guess people will have to go through the administrator to make
these changes ( "for reasons of security" sounds good :) ).

If anyone has any additional info that'd be great, it actually would
be a nice feature to have because it allows people to take ownership
when users leave the company without having to get the administrator
involved, and I'm sure some of them expect it to be there.

It's not really a showstopper for me. However, I am not sure if an 
Administrator logged onto a Windows box can change ownership of files
( maybe if they are mapped to the root user ? ), I could see that
being an issue.

I'll have to test that :)


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