Windows 98 + domain logons

Darren Philps darren.philps at
Tue Nov 28 13:15:14 GMT 2000


Sounds like DNS probs to me.  Check reverse mappings and the log.nmb log
file.  Should point you in the right direction.  Don't put yourself through
the NT/2000 hell, definitely not worth it.


Darren Philps
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-----Original Message-----
From: Gilles SIMON <gilsim at>
To: svein-roar.nilsen at <svein-roar.nilsen at>
Cc: samba at <samba at>
Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: Windows 98 + domain logons

>Do you also have problems with locks ?
>I have same messages with same behaviour (same config), except the '3
>hours outage'. It also stops some software (as ms-office) in normal use.
>The only thing I found to minimize in some way these problems was to put
>a slave DNS server on the same computer as Samba. But the problem is
>here, although less frequent. Take care about reverse naming (IP ->
>It seems a timing problem in Samba.
>I posted a question a few days ago in this list, but no answer. If you
>get solution, please mail to me.
>Hope this helps.
>Gilles SIMON
>"Svein Roar Nilsen" <svein-roar.nilsen at> wrote:
>> Hi!
>> One last try before ditching Samba and buying Windows 2000 Server...
>> Server: RedHat 7.0 with Samba 2.0.7, set up as PDC to be able to run
>> logon
>> scripts.
>> PC's: Norwegian Windows 98 with all the stuff from windowsupdate
>> (including
>> explorer 5.5)
>> Every morning, all our Windows 98 users (we have about 20 of them)
>> have to log
>> on multiple times, usually between 2 and 5, before being able to log
>> on to our
>> domain. They get an error message saying something about not being
>> able to
>> contact the domain controller. But when they finally are able to log
>> on,
>> everything works very well untill the next morning. Our Windows NT 4.0
>> users are
>> able to log on just fine every time they try.
>> In the log.pcNN logfiles, we get the following 3 lines for every
>> attempt:
>> [2000/11/27 09:45:01, 0] lib/util_sock.c:write_socket_data(540)
>>   write_socket_data: write failure. Error = Broken pipe
>> [2000/11/27 09:45:01, 0] lib/util_sock.c:write_socket(566)
>>   write_socket: Error writing 4 bytes to socket 6: ERRNO = Broken pipe
>> [2000/11/27 09:45:01, 0] lib/util_sock.c:send_smb(754)
>>   Error writing 4 bytes to client. -1. Exiting
>> But even worse: If the server is restarted while all workstations are
>> off, it
>> takes exactly 3 hours from the first workstation is back on until
>> people are
>> able to log on again. (Again, except for our NT users...) So I just
>> have to tell
>> them: "wait until lunch time, then everything will be OK!" And during
>> these 3
>> hours, it is not possible to view any network information from any
>> Windows 98
>> machine. "net view" gives a message about not finding the machine
>> controlling
>> shared resources or something like that (freely translated from
>> Norwegian),
>> while "smbclient -L pc07" works just fine and also shows all our
>> workgroups with
>> masterbrowsers, and everything looks just fine.
>> It has not always been like that. The problem first turned up in an
>> earlier
>> version of Samba. I think when we upgraded to 2.0.6 or maybe 2.0.5,
>> and has been
>> there ever since.
>> I have tried to change nearly every parameter in smb.conf, but nothing
>> seems to
>> help. So I should be really grateful if someone is able to help! I
>> have also
>> searched the internet, and it seems that there are other people having
>> similar
>> problems, but I have never seen anybody providing an answear that
>> works for us.
>> (btw: has anyone tested 2.2-alpha1? Is it stable enough to cause less
>> problems
>> than the version we are running? :)
>> Svein Roar Nilsen
>Gilles SIMON
>gilsim at

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