SAMBA digest 1778
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Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Public shares w/ security = user
by Charles Curley <charles.h.curley at lmco.com>
2) Re: Failure to execute programs from a mapped drive
by "Mark Hazen" <mhazen at franklin.uga.edu>
3) Living with WinNT servers / password synchronization
by Chong Shang Shan <chongsha at sps.nus.edu.sg>
4) Re: SAMBA digest 1777
by "Mark Hazen" <mhazen at franklin.uga.edu>
5) Re: Network Neighborhood comment fields and Samba
by "Mark Hazen" <mhazen at franklin.uga.edu>
6) Re: SAMBA digest 1775
by Matthew Chapman <z2232203 at student.unsw.edu.au>
7) Re: Print Drivers on Samba
by Matthew Chapman <z2232203 at student.unsw.edu.au>
8) (no subject)
by "Johnny W. Hall" <johnny at aspec.com>
9) samba pidfile
by Ian Simpson <Ian.Simpson at alphawest.com.au>
10) Re: Living with WinNT servers / password synchronization
by Jan Kratochvil <short at ucw.cz>
11) Re: security=server and need to have users at linux too
by Bill Eldridge <bill at rfa.org>
12) Performance Problems
by graham.dodd at ramstein.af.mil
13) Problem copying files using xcopy
by "Sudarsan Varadan" <sudarsan.varadan at wang.com>
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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 13:20:46 -0400
From: Charles Curley <charles.h.curley at lmco.com>
To: Samba Mailing List <samba at samba.anu.edu.au>
Subject: Public shares w/ security = user
Message-ID: <35D1CEEE.1D711FD at lmco.com>
Configuration: RedHat 5.0 w/ Samba 1.9.18p8. My servers don't do
domain
logins. I picked a workgroup called OCALA-CIM for it. I have
clients
connecting from standalone desktops w/o domain logins to anyone
and
others that connect from desktops that are fully logged into a
NT
domain, which is called ACCT03 and these desktops seem to be
mostly
setup to be in a workgroup called EMC.
My main samba server (hostname and netbios name is "mi") has
been
working well for a while with share level security. Now I want
to add a
second machine and have it use mi as its password server.
Instant
problems.
Can shares be public on a server with user level security, i.e.,
no
login required whatsoever?
As soon as I enabled user security, users connected to public
shares
started getting authentication windows up for the \\server\ipc$
before
even getting near the shares. I enabled user level security
since this
is required for the machine to act as a password server,
correct? I've
looked through the actives trying to find out how to fix but
didn't find
an answer, at least I didn't realize I did.
I've been messing around with creating a wildcard user match in
the
usermap and then putting that user in the smb password file w/o
a
password (nobody:99:NO PASSWORDXXXX ...). Is this how you
accomplish my
goal? This sort of works but doesn't "feel" right. Problem with
this is
that it seems to cause the server to be unacceptable as a
password
server by another samba since I get the following when trying to
point
the new samba server at the old one with a "security = server"
and
"password server = mi":
server_validate: password server MI allows users as non-guest
with a bad
password.
server_validate: This is broken (and insecure) behaviour. Please
do not
use this machine as the password server.
--
Charles Curley, Staff Engineer
Computer Integrated Manufacturing
Lockheed Martin Ocala Operations
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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 22:01:22 -0400
From: "Mark Hazen" <mhazen at franklin.uga.edu>
To: <samba at samba.anu.edu.au>
Cc: <alex at gsm.adelaide.edu.au>
Subject: Re: Failure to execute programs from a mapped drive
Message-ID: <01bdc65e$4521a420$50b00fa8 at mark.franklin.uga.edu>
>If I put an app in 'Alex_Ardalich' I get something like a file
not
>found errors.
>
>An app in a folder under the General share runs fine.
Most likely to do with the way that Win95 tries to access
directories.
Rename your directories to all lower case, and my guess is
you'll resolve
the problem. You can force lowercase names (this has been our
solution here)
or you can also set SAMBA to check for multiple capitalizations.
The problem
is really that to Windows95, the names "Folder", "folder",
"fOLDER" and
"FoLdEr" are all treated the same way (they are requested as as
'folder', if
I recall correctly), while these are all different to Unix.
Anytime anyone tells you Windows98 is the wave of the future,
just remind
them that it can't even tell the difference between upper and
lower case.
::grin::
Regards,
-mh.
----
. _+m"m+_"+_ Mark Hazen Network Administrator, Dean's
Office
d' Jp qh qh The Franklin College of Arts &
Sciences
Jp O O O The University of Georgia
(706)542-1546
Yb Yb dY dY
O "Y5m2Y" " even the mightiest wave starts out as a
ripple.
"Y_ why make waves when it's easier to nurture
ripples?
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 09:47:24 +0800 (SST)
From: Chong Shang Shan <chongsha at sps.nus.edu.sg>
To: Multiple recipients of list <samba at samba.anu.edu.au>
Subject: Living with WinNT servers / password synchronization
Message-ID:
<Pine.SGI.3.94.980813090438.12101A-100000 at sps.nus.edu.sg>
Hello,
I am running samba 1.9.18p8-1 on a Debian Linux machine.
This
machine is set to be a local master and domain master and
logons, serving
10 Win95 machines via the LAN. There are *many* WinNT servers
"out there",
not maintained by me, which I have no interest in communicating
with,
except to live peacefully with them, and not step on their toes.
Everything works perfectly except that the samba daemon keeps
writing
gobfuls of messages like
NET: 130 messages suppressed.
137.132.80.131 sent an invalid ICMP error to a broadcast
137.132.80.124 sent an invalid ICMP error to a broadcast
137.132.80.132 sent an invalid ICMP error to a broadcast
The IPs apparently all come from Win NT servers. What is wrong
with my
configuration, and how can I solve it? (other than pipe the
messages to
/dev/null?)
Another thing worries me is the possibility of unsynchronized
passwords.
Apparently, samba allows users to change their passwords via the
Win95
control panel. But the network logon password seems to be
different from
the "Windows password". As long a user changes his password
using the
control panel on one machine, everything seems ok. But a changed
password
might not be propagated to the "Windows password" of another
machine, and
subsequent changes of passwords will give "password not changed"
messages,
even when the network password _is_ changed (pure confusion). So
far, I
have not informed my users of this facility, and with this bug,
I'm not
sure if I should. But it is a real pain to make everyone change
their
passwords through the root. :)
css.
--
Chong Shang Shan <*> ChongSS at letterbox.com <*>
== Standard disclaimer applies
===========================================
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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 22:13:58 -0400
From: "Mark Hazen" <mhazen at franklin.uga.edu>
To: <samba at samba.anu.edu.au>
Cc: <gurevitz at cs.umd.edu>
Subject: Re: SAMBA digest 1777
Message-ID: <01bdc660$07d68020$50b00fa8 at mark.franklin.uga.edu>
>Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 09:00:20 -0400
>From: "Eric Gurevitz" <gurevitz at cs.umd.edu>
>
> I use samba mostly for printing. On NT server you can install
the
necessary
>print drivers for 95, NT, etc so that when a user connects to a
printer it
>automatically downloads the correct driver. Is there anyway to
do this with
>samba?
Yes, but not under NT. This is in the documentation that comes
with SAMBA,
in the docs directory, in a file called "PRINTER_DRIVER.txt".
Regards,
-mh.
----
. _+m"m+_"+_ Mark Hazen Network Administrator, Dean's
Office
d' Jp qh qh The Franklin College of Arts &
Sciences
Jp O O O The University of Georgia
(706)542-1546
Yb Yb dY dY
O "Y5m2Y" " even the mightiest wave starts out as a
ripple.
"Y_ why make waves when it's easier to nurture
ripples?
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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 22:18:02 -0400
From: "Mark Hazen" <mhazen at franklin.uga.edu>
To: <samba at samba.anu.edu.au>
Subject: Re: Network Neighborhood comment fields and Samba
Message-ID: <01bdc660$98e5d0c0$50b00fa8 at mark.franklin.uga.edu>
>From: "Paul L. Lussier" <plussier at BayNetworks.COM>
>Subject: Network Neighborhood comment fields and Samba
>
>The problem I'm encountering is that the only comment I see is
that of the
>what is listed in the main smb.conf file:
Have you tried commenting that string out in your smb.conf file,
and letting
the string be set first in the individual configs? That'd be my
first
suggestion. My guess is also (just guessing) that either the
included file
is getting parsed before the line in the smb.conf file, or SAMBA
is
intentionally ignoring recurring comments.
Regards,
-mh.
----
. _+m"m+_"+_ Mark Hazen Network Administrator, Dean's
Office
d' Jp qh qh The Franklin College of Arts &
Sciences
Jp O O O The University of Georgia
(706)542-1546
Yb Yb dY dY
O "Y5m2Y" " even the mightiest wave starts out as a
ripple.
"Y_ why make waves when it's easier to nurture
ripples?
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 02:11:59 +0000
From: Matthew Chapman <z2232203 at student.unsw.edu.au>
To: samba at samba.anu.edu.au, alex at gsm.adelaide.edu.au
Subject: Re: SAMBA digest 1775
Message-ID: <35D24B6F.FF34FC92 at student.unsw.edu.au>
There is a bug in the Microsoft LanManger implementation which
mismaps
long filenames for 16-bit applications - thus 16-bit apps run
from
long path names on networked shares will often fail. Try sharing
the
apps from the same pathname on a Win95 client and running them
under
NT - I suspect the same thing will happen. Workaround: don't use
long
filenames.
Matt
> > I have a strange situation. I have a Linux machine running
samba
> > 1.9.18p8, serving a mix of NT Workstation 4.0 and Windows 95
clients.
> In
> > general, things have worked flawlessly, with one exception:
none of the
> > clients are able to execute programs stored on these shares.
Full
> reading
> > and writing to the shares is possible; and even though I
cannot see how
> it
> > would be relevant, the execute bits are set to all files. I
can provide
> > needed portions of my smb.conf file as needed. Any
suggestions or
> > comments are most welcome.
>
> I have noticed it can depend on the share name or maybe the
name of
> the directory it is in
>
> For example I have the two following shares...
>
> 1.) General
>
> 2.) StaffShare
> folders under this share have names like
> Alex_Ardalich
>
> If I put an app in 'Alex_Ardalich' I get something like a file
not
> found errors.
>
> An app in a folder under the General share runs fine.
>
> Alex
--
Matt Chapman
E-mail: mattyc at cyberdude.com
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 02:25:34 +0000
From: Matthew Chapman <z2232203 at student.unsw.edu.au>
To: samba at samba.anu.edu.au, gurevitz at cs.umd.edu
Subject: Re: Print Drivers on Samba
Message-ID: <35D24E9D.5DA46D6E at student.unsw.edu.au>
> Hello All:
> I use samba mostly for printing. On NT server you can
install the necessary
> print drivers for 95, NT, etc so that when a user connects to
a printer it
> automatically downloads the correct driver. Is there anyway to
do this with
> samba?
>
> Eric
>
> Eric Gurevitz
> gurevitz at cs.umd.edu
> PC Support
> Computer Science
> University of Maryland
> 301-405-2749
In my experience NT will add the correct driver as long as you
have "printer driver =
" set correctly in smb.conf ('man smb.conf' for more info). For
information on how to
set up Samba so Win95 downloads the correct driver see
PRINTER_DRIVER.txt in the Samba
docs.
Moral of this story: RTFD.
Matt.
--
Matt Chapman
E-mail: mattyc at cyberdude.com
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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 22:17:29 -0700
From: "Johnny W. Hall" <johnny at aspec.com>
To: samba at anu.edu.au
Subject: (no subject)
Message-ID: <35D276E9.65F2A9B0 at aspec.com>
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 15:53:07 +0800
From: Ian Simpson <Ian.Simpson at alphawest.com.au>
To: samba at samba.anu.edu.au
Subject: samba pidfile
Message-ID: <35D29B63.E414BEF5 at alphawest.com.au>
Hi all,
sorry about the samba newbie question, but..
where is pidfile for the smbd processes that are currently
running?
I know smbstatus, but it reports the number of current
connections ( I
think) which is one less than a ps -ef smbd (or equivalent)
outputs.
Basically, I am looking at a script to kill all smbd and the
nmbd
processes. Unfortunately, O/S is solaris, and I don't have the
linux
'killall' command (well, I do, but I do not want to kill the
entire
system.
Thanks for any tips,
Ian
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 12:04:49 +0200
From: Jan Kratochvil <short at ucw.cz>
To: chongsha at sps.nus.edu.sg
Cc: samba at samba.anu.edu.au
Subject: Re: Living with WinNT servers / password
synchronization
Message-ID: <19980813120449.00856 at atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>
> Hello,
Hi
> I am running samba 1.9.18p8-1 on a Debian Linux machine.
This
Linux kernel is the source of this message, so your post to
samba at ...
was offtopic.
See /usr/src/linux/net/ipv4/icmp.c, line around 680.
[snipped]
> The IPs apparently all come from Win NT servers. What is wrong
with my
> configuration, and how can I solve it? (other than pipe the
messages to
> /dev/null?)
See the comment in the sources referenced above. And you can
comment out
that message from there anyway, if you are unable to fix it at
any side.
[snipped]
Lace
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 07:18:20 -0400
From: Bill Eldridge <bill at rfa.org>
To: "'samba at samba.anu.edu.au'" <samba at samba.anu.edu.au>
Cc: "'harald-s at gmx.net'" <harald-s at gmx.net>
Subject: Re: security=server and need to have users at linux too
Message-ID: <01BDC68A.8CAEE2E0.bill at rfa.org>
Depending on the concerns for adding 200 users on the
Linux box:
1) You can have every user authenticate via the NT box
using PAM_SMB, and in /etc/pam.d figure out which
services they can access this way (i.e. yes to IMAP/mail,
no to shell login, etc.)
2) You can make a "/bin/false" as the shell in the passwd
file to prevent any logins, and make the homes /dev/null
if you don't want to take up disk space.
3) If the issue is just time to set up 200 accounts, you have
a file "UserList" with all the user names and do:
for i in `cat UserList`; do
adduser -g somegroup -d /home/$i -p '*' -s /bin/zsh $i
done
(The * password assumes you're using PAM_SMB).
4) If the issue is just how to allow NT users without setting
up any Linux accounts, I'm not sure this can be done.
--
Bill Eldridge
Radio Free Asia
bill at rfa.org
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 14:39:59 +0200
From: graham.dodd at ramstein.af.mil
To: samba at samba.anu.edu.au
Subject: Performance Problems
Message-ID:
<DFA56F55726AD111839A0000F820FB78013685C5 at ram-exch-nl5.ramstein.af.mil>
I've been introducing a local company to the benefits of Linux
and Samba,
things have been going really well until I tried to provide some
file
sharing for 3 people on the Lan.
Setup: RH 5.0 on a P5-133 running a small intranet with DHCP,
file server,
and local / remote mail services
Samba 1.9.18 (not sure of patch level)
I setup a directory accessible by only 3 users and copied a
2.4Meg .dbf file
into the mapped directory, this only took a few seconds.
I tried to open the .dbf file using Excel97 from a users PC, it
took > 5
minutes
Sharing a Win95 folder containing the same file, and opening it
from another
users PC took around 15 seconds........
The server load is very light, it's not swapping or disk
thrashing and no
other users were using Samba during these tests.
Why do I have really poor performance using Samba???
Appreciate any thoughts or ideas
Graham
-------------------------------------------------------
Graham K Dodd
Network Systems Analyst
DSN: 480-5670 / 5233
Fax : 480-2332
Email: Graham.Dodd at ramstein.af.mil
-------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 09:33:57 -0700
From: "Sudarsan Varadan" <sudarsan.varadan at wang.com>
To: <samba at samba.anu.edu.au>
Subject: Problem copying files using xcopy
Message-ID:
<000a01bdc6d8$2b8e8d00$b66ebd81 at cbinfrasv.olsy-na.com>
> Hi
>
> I am having this wierld problem, where I am using an
intel proclone disk
> using the tcp-ip stack, and trying to download files using
xcopy from a
> unixware server running samba on it. The problem I have is
when my
> directory structure goes more than 48 characters, xcopy fails
with path
not
> found. Is this a limitation with samba??? We have been
downloading
files
> without any problems using xcopy on a network using lanmanager
/ netbeui.
> Please advise.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Sudarsan Varadan
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Sudarsan Varadan
Ph: (509) 927-5748 (W)
(509) 891-1711 (H)
(800) 516-3901 (Pager)
sudarsan.varadan at wang.com
svaradan at hotmail.com
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