logging out hangs win95 consistently

Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton lkcl at switchboard.net
Fri Sep 12 15:23:48 GMT 1997

On Fri, 12 Sep 1997, Bas Laarhoven wrote:

> At some point I pressed escape to enter windows without domain 
> logon, clicked around to the keyboard configuration screen. Then I 
> played with the settings a little, made no real changes and 
> logged off again. At that point I was able to enter a password !

i know.  it's a pisser.  and this only works sometimes.

ok, summary time: can we bring this one to a close?

two problems with w95:

1) keyboard locks up after a logout, when you get back to the login 
prompt.  esc / tab work; alphanumerics don't.

2) machine hangs indefinitely after "shut down and log on as new user",
with the greyed-out screen.  there is no network activity.  sometimes there
is a tiny, regular amount of disk activity (one tiny flash per four

1) has been seen on:

    a) "windows" logon, no "netware" or "microsoft" logon, with a polish 
       keyboard driver, on a stand-alone machine.

    b) osr-2 / w95 floppy disk version / w95b.

    c) domain logons on "microsoft" logon using _either_ a samba 
       profile server _or_ an NT domain controller.

2) has been seen when:

a non-mandatory profile is use, and the same username is used to log in 
simultaneously to two or more machines.  one of the machines will log 
out successfully, the other(s?) will hang.

    a) when using samba for WINS service, the hang is indefinite.

    b) when using _NT_ for WINS service, a subsequent re-login will 
       result in a hung logout becoming unstuck.

1) can be sorted out by:

    a) re-installing w95.  SOMETIMES.

    b) disabling profiles on the w95 client; deleting all local and remote
       USER.DAT profiles.  sorting out which keyboard driver you're going
       to use, in the default profile.  re-enabling profiles on the w95
       client, then NOT touching the keyboard settings ever again. 

2) can be sorted out by:

using _mandatory_ profiles when you have the same user logging on to 
multiple w95 machines.

i suspect therefore that there is a file locking problem under w95. 
samba's file locking has been sorted out in 1.9.17, therefore we're
starting to see this problem under samba!!! 

paul, can this be forwarded to the right microsoft people, explored
in-depth and a KB report either found or generated?  (i'd appreciate being
kept in the loop as to where it could be found).  there are a number of
microsoft w95 administrators around who are concerned about this. 


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