Problems with VMS backup save sets after FTP transfers.

David Taubner DTaubner at exchange.hsc.mb.ca
Wed Feb 13 17:41:31 GMT 2002


Thanks (in plain text), Tim.
This is another good one to have tucked away...

David Taubner
CIS Systems Administrator
Health Sciences Centre


-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Oakley [mailto:t.oakley at mailhost.maury-imprimeur.fr]
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 4:04 AM
To: samba-vms at lists.samba.org
Subject: Problems with VMS backup save sets after FTP transfers.


Below are the lines of a VMS command procedure (available on the VMS
FreeWare CD) which converts FTP
received save sets to the correct RMS format for the VMS BACKUP utility.

$! RESET_BACKUP_SAVESET_ATTRIBUTES.COM
$!
$! P1  is the specification of the BACKUP saveset
$!
$! This procedure resets the record format and record
$! length attributes of a BACKUP saveset -- savesets
$! can get "broken" during certain sorts of file
$! transfers -- such as FTP.  This procedure reads the
$! (undocumented) saveset record attributes directly
$! out of the target file.
$!
$! First render the saveset readable, and implicitly
$! check that the file exists.
$!
$ Set File -
    /Attributes=(RFM:FIX,MRS:512,LRL=512,ORG=SEQ,RAT=NONE) -
    'p1'
$
$ Open/Error=whoops/Read BckSaveset 'p1'
$ Read/Error=whoops/End=whoops BckSaveset Record
$ Close/Nolog BckSaveset
$
$! Find the blocksize from within the record...
$
$ BlockSize = 0
$ BBH_L_BLOCKSIZE = %x28*8
$ BlockSize = F$CVUI(BBH_L_BLOCKSIZE, 32, Record)
$ If BlockSize .lt. 2048 .or. BlockSize .gt. 65535
$ Then
$   Write sys$output "Unexpected block size"
$   Goto whoops
$ Else
$   Set File /Attributes=(RFM:FIX,LRL='BlockSize', -
       MRS='BlockSize',RAT=none) -
       'p1'
$ endif
$ exit
$WHOOPS:
$ Write sys$output "Error"
$ exit

Execute this procedure with the name of your FTP received save set as the P1
parameter.

ex. @RESET_BACKUP_SAVESET_ATTRIBUTES my_save_set.bck

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> From: David Taubner <DTaubner at exchange.hsc.mb.ca>
> To: "'samba-vms at lists.samba.org'" <samba-vms at lists.samba.org>
> Subject: RE: Problems installing on an Alpha system
> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 08:33:14 -0600
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> Here is some useful info to transfer files from a PC to OpenVMS:
>
> If you need to transfer a software patch through an intermediate
non-OpenVMS
> system, use BINARY mode to transfer the files to and from that system.
>
> Also, make sure the save set record size is 2048 bytes when you transfer
the
> file from the intermediate system to your OpenVMS system:
>
> * If you use the GET command to download the file from the intermediate
> system, use the FTP RECORD-SIZE 2048 command before transferring the file.
>
> * If you use the PUT command to upload the file to your OpenVMS system,
log
> into the intermediate system and use the FTP quote site rms recsize 2048
> command before transferring the file.
>
>
>
> When transferring VMS backup savesets, the correct block size is often
lost,
> resulting in an inability for BACKUP to read the file.
> You can correct this using the following command:
>
> SET FILE/ATTRIBUTES=(LRL=32256,RFM:FIX) SAVESET.BCK
>
> (assuming the correct blocksize is 32256).
>
>
> David Taubner
> CIS Systems Administrator
> Health Sciences Centre
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Meehan [mailto:PeterM at georgejames.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 3:59 AM
> To: 'samba-vms at lists.samba.org'
> Subject: Problems installing on an Alpha system
>
> Hi,
>
> I am a complete beginner with Samba and do not have a lot of VMS
experience,
> I guess my problems are prob with VMS rather than Samba.
>
> I have an Alpha 1000 running open VMS 7.1,  I downloaded the binary
version
> of Samba 2.0.3 (Alpha version samba-2_0_3-vms0-bin_alpha) onto a PC
(Windows
> NT4) from a samba mirror site ,  I extracted the zipped files on the PC
and
> transferred them to the Alpha by FTP (WS FTP PRO) using auto detect for
the
> binary/text option.
>
> I also downloaded the cnlt file (samba_crtl-021-bin_alpha) dated the 15th
> November 1999 into the same directory and did @LINK as instructed in the
> readme.vms file.
>
> I got this error
>
> %RMS-W-RTB, 512 byte record too large for user's buffer
>
> Do I have to make some changes to the VMS set up or has something gone
wrong
> in the download ftp process?  All help appreciated
>
> Regards
> Peter
>
> George James Software
> 42-44 High Street
> Shepperton
> Middlesex
> TW17 9AU
> United Kingdom
> www.georgejames.com
> +44-1932-252568
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> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
> class=932202714-07022002>Here is some useful info to transfer files from a
PC to
> OpenVMS:</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
> class=932202714-07022002></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
> class=932202714-07022002>I</SPAN>f you need to transfer a software patch
through
> an intermediate non-OpenVMS system, use BINARY mode to transfer the files
to and
> from that system. </FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
> class=932202714-07022002>Also,</SPAN>&nbsp;make sure the save set record
size is
> 2048 bytes when you transfer the file from the intermediate system to your
> OpenVMS system: </FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>* If you use the GET command to
> download the file from the intermediate system, use the FTP RECORD-SIZE
2048
> command before transferring the file. </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>* If you use the PUT command to
> upload the file to your OpenVMS system, log into the intermediate system
and use
> the FTP quote site rms recsize 2048 command before transferring the file.
> </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>When transferring VMS backup
> savesets, the correct block size is often lost, resulting in an inability
for
> BACKUP to read the file. <BR>You can correct this using the following
command:
> </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>SET
> FILE/ATTRIBUTES=(LRL=32256,RFM:FIX) SAVESET.BCK </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>(assuming the correct blocksize
is
> 32256). </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><BR>
> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>David Taubner</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial
size=2>CIS
> Systems Administrator</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>Health Sciences
> Centre</FONT> </P>
> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>   <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
>   size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Peter Meehan
>   [mailto:PeterM at georgejames.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 07,
2002
>   3:59 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'samba-vms at lists.samba.org'<BR><B>Subject:</B>
Problems
>   installing on an Alpha system<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
>   <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi,</FONT> </P>
>   <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am a complete beginner with Samba and do
not have
>   a lot of VMS experience,&nbsp; I guess my problems are prob with VMS
rather
>   than Samba.</FONT></P>
>   <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have an Alpha 1000 running open VMS
7.1,&nbsp; I
>   downloaded the binary version of Samba 2.0.3 (Alpha version
>   samba-2_0_3-vms0-bin_alpha) onto a PC (Windows NT4) from a samba mirror
site
>   ,&nbsp; I extracted the zipped files on the PC and transferred them to
the
>   Alpha by FTP (WS FTP PRO) using auto detect for the binary/text
>   option.</FONT></P>
>   <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>I also downloaded the cnlt file
>   (samba_crtl-021-bin_alpha) dated the 15th November 1999 into the same
>   directory and did @LINK as instructed in the readme.vms file.</FONT></P>
>   <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>I got this error</FONT> </P>
>   <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>%RMS-W-RTB, 512 byte record too large for
user's
>   buffer</FONT> </P>
>   <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Do I have to make some changes to the VMS set
up or
>   has something gone wrong in the download ftp process?&nbsp; All help
>   appreciated</FONT></P>
>   <P><B><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards</FONT></B> <BR><B><FONT face=Arial
>   size=2>Peter</FONT></B> </P>
>   <P><B><FONT face=Arial color=#000080 size=2>George James
>   Software</FONT></B><FONT face="Times New Roman"><BR></FONT><FONT
face=Arial
>   color=#000080 size=2>42-44 High Street</FONT><FONT
>   face="Times New Roman"><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#000080
>   size=2>Shepperton</FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman"><BR></FONT><FONT
>   face=Arial color=#000080 size=2>Middlesex</FONT><BR><FONT face=Arial
>   color=#000080 size=2>TW17 9AU</FONT><FONT
>   face="Times New Roman"><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#000080
size=2>United
>   Kingdom</FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman"> </FONT><BR><FONT face=Arial
>   color=#000080 size=2>www.georgejames.com</FONT><FONT
>   face="Times New Roman"><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#000080
>   size=2>+44-1932-252568</FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman">
</FONT></P><BR>
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> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jan-erik_S=F6derholm_=28QAC=29?=
<Jan-erik.Soderholm at pac.ericsson.se>
> To: "'samba-vms at lists.samba.org'" <samba-vms at lists.samba.org>
> Subject: RE: Problems installing on an Alpha system
> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 16:33:26 +0100
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> Or simply use a VMS-aware ZIP version on both systems.
> =20
> Then you just ZIP the file, FTP through any number of systems
> (as binary), and then UNZIP on the target VMS system. Works
> for *any* variant of a VMS file. BCK, RBF, OBJ whatever.
> =20
> I'v neved had to adjust anything after the UNZIP.
> =20
> Jan-Erik S=F6derholm.
> =20
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: David Taubner [mailto:DTaubner at exchange.hsc.mb.ca]
> Sent: den 7 februari 2002 15:33
> To: 'samba-vms at lists.samba.org'
> Subject: RE: Problems installing on an Alpha system
>
> Here is some useful info to transfer files from a PC to OpenVMS:
> =20
> If you need to transfer a software patch through an intermediate =
> non-OpenVMS system, use BINARY mode to transfer the files to and from =
> that system.=20
> =20
> Also, make sure the save set record size is 2048 bytes when you =
> transfer the file from the intermediate system to your OpenVMS system:=20
> =20
> * If you use the GET command to download the file from the intermediate =
> system, use the FTP RECORD-SIZE 2048 command before transferring the =
> file.=20
> =20
> * If you use the PUT command to upload the file to your OpenVMS system, =
> log into the intermediate system and use the FTP quote site rms recsize =
> 2048 command before transferring the file.=20
> =20
> =20
> =20
> When transferring VMS backup savesets, the correct block size is often =
> lost, resulting in an inability for BACKUP to read the file.=20
> You can correct this using the following command:=20
> =20
> SET FILE/ATTRIBUTES=3D(LRL=3D32256,RFM:FIX) SAVESET.BCK=20
> =20
> (assuming the correct blocksize is 32256).=20
> =20
>
> David Taubner=20
> CIS Systems Administrator=20
> Health Sciences Centre=20
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Meehan [mailto:PeterM at georgejames.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 3:59 AM
> To: 'samba-vms at lists.samba.org'
> Subject: Problems installing on an Alpha system
>
> Hi,=20
>
> I am a complete beginner with Samba and do not have a lot of VMS =
> experience,  I guess my problems are prob with VMS rather than Samba.
>
> I have an Alpha 1000 running open VMS 7.1,  I downloaded the binary =
> version of Samba 2.0.3 (Alpha version samba-2_0_3-vms0-bin_alpha) onto =
> a PC (Windows NT4) from a samba mirror site ,  I extracted the zipped =
> files on the PC and transferred them to the Alpha by FTP (WS FTP PRO) =
> using auto detect for the binary/text option.
>
> I also downloaded the cnlt file (samba_crtl-021-bin_alpha) dated the =
> 15th November 1999 into the same directory and did @LINK as instructed =
> in the readme.vms file.
>
> I got this error=20
>
> %RMS-W-RTB, 512 byte record too large for user's buffer=20
>
> Do I have to make some changes to the VMS set up or has something gone =
> wrong in the download ftp process?  All help appreciated
>
> Regards=20
> Peter=20
>
> George James Software
> 42-44 High Street
> Shepperton
> Middlesex
> TW17 9AU
> United Kingdom=20
> www.georgejames.com
> +44-1932-252568=20
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> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
> class=3D039253115-07022002>Or=20
> simply use a VMS-aware ZIP version on both systems.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
> class=3D039253115-07022002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
> class=3D039253115-07022002>Then=20
> you just ZIP the file, FTP through any number of =
> system</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
> face=3DTahoma><FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3D039253115-07022002><FONT =
> color=3D#0000ff=20
> face=3DArial>s</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT size=3D2><SPAN =
> class=3D039253115-07022002><FONT=20
> color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial>(as binary), and then UNZIP on the target =
> VMS=20
> system.&nbsp;Works</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT size=3D2><SPAN =
> class=3D039253115-07022002><FONT=20
> color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial>for *any* variant of a VMS file. BCK, RBF, =
> OBJ=20
> whatever.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
> class=3D039253115-07022002></SPAN></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
> class=3D039253115-07022002>I'v=20
> neved had to adjust anything after the UNZIP.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
> class=3D039253115-07022002></SPAN></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT size=3D2><SPAN =
> class=3D039253115-07022002><FONT=20
> color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial>Jan-Erik =
> S=F6derholm.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
> class=3D039253115-07022002></SPAN></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
> class=3D039253115-07022002>&nbsp;</SPAN>-----Original =
> Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
> David Taubner [mailto:DTaubner at exchange.hsc.mb.ca]<BR><B>Sent:</B> den =
> 7=20
> februari 2002 15:33<BR><B>To:</B> =
> 'samba-vms at lists.samba.org'<BR><B>Subject:</B>=20
> RE: Problems installing on an Alpha system<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"></FONT>
>   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
>   class=3D932202714-07022002>Here is some useful info to transfer files =
> from a PC=20
>   to OpenVMS:</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
>   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
>   class=3D932202714-07022002></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
>   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
>   class=3D932202714-07022002>I</SPAN>f you need to transfer a software =
> patch=20
>   through an intermediate non-OpenVMS system, use BINARY mode to =
> transfer the=20
>   files to and from that system. </FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
>   <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
>   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
>   class=3D932202714-07022002>Also,</SPAN>&nbsp;make sure the save set =
> record size=20
>   is 2048 bytes when you transfer the file from the intermediate system =
> to your=20
>   OpenVMS system: </FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
>   <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
>   <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2>* If you use the GET =
> command to=20
>   download the file from the intermediate system, use the FTP =
> RECORD-SIZE 2048=20
>   command before transferring the file. </FONT></DIV>
>   <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
>   <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2>* If you use the PUT =
> command to=20
>   upload the file to your OpenVMS system, log into the intermediate =
> system and=20
>   use the FTP quote site rms recsize 2048 command before transferring =
> the file.=20
>   </FONT></DIV>
>   <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
>   <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
>   <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
>   <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2>When transferring =
> VMS backup=20
>   savesets, the correct block size is often lost, resulting in an =
> inability for=20
>   BACKUP to read the file. <BR>You can correct this using the following =
> command:=20
>   </FONT></DIV>
>   <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
>   <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2>SET=20
>   FILE/ATTRIBUTES=3D(LRL=3D32256,RFM:FIX) SAVESET.BCK </FONT></DIV>
>   <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
>   <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2>(assuming the =
> correct blocksize is=20
>   32256). </FONT></DIV>
>   <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><BR>
>   <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>David Taubner</FONT> <BR><FONT =
> face=3DArial=20
>   size=3D2>CIS Systems Administrator</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial =
> size=3D2>Health=20
>   Sciences Centre</FONT> </P>
>   <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>     <DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT =
> face=3DTahoma=20
>     size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Peter Meehan=20
>     [mailto:PeterM at georgejames.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February =
> 07, 2002=20
>     3:59 AM<BR><B>To:</B> =
> 'samba-vms at lists.samba.org'<BR><B>Subject:</B>=20
>     Problems installing on an Alpha system<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
>     <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi,</FONT> </P>
>     <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am a complete beginner with Samba =
> and do not=20
>     have a lot of VMS experience,&nbsp; I guess my problems are prob =
> with VMS=20
>     rather than Samba.</FONT></P>
>     <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have an Alpha 1000 running open =
> VMS 7.1,&nbsp;=20
>     I downloaded the binary version of Samba 2.0.3 (Alpha version=20
>     samba-2_0_3-vms0-bin_alpha) onto a PC (Windows NT4) from a samba =
> mirror site=20
>     ,&nbsp; I extracted the zipped files on the PC and transferred them =
> to the=20
>     Alpha by FTP (WS FTP PRO) using auto detect for the binary/text=20
>     option.</FONT></P>
>     <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I also downloaded the cnlt file=20
>     (samba_crtl-021-bin_alpha) dated the 15th November 1999 into the =
> same=20
>     directory and did @LINK as instructed in the readme.vms =
> file.</FONT></P>
>     <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I got this error</FONT> </P>
>     <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>%RMS-W-RTB, 512 byte record too =
> large for user's=20
>     buffer</FONT> </P>
>     <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Do I have to make some changes to =
> the VMS set up=20
>     or has something gone wrong in the download ftp process?&nbsp; All =
> help=20
>     appreciated</FONT></P>
>     <P><B><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Regards</FONT></B> <BR><B><FONT =
> face=3DArial=20
>     size=3D2>Peter</FONT></B> </P>
>     <P><B><FONT color=3D#000080 face=3DArial size=3D2>George James=20
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> From: David Taubner <DTaubner at exchange.hsc.mb.ca>
> To: "'samba-vms at lists.samba.org'" <samba-vms at lists.samba.org>
> Subject: RE: Problems installing on an Alpha system
> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 09:45:59 -0600
>
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> Right - zip works best.
> =20
> I should have mentioned - I wanted to pass this info to the VMS newbies
who
> would likely encounter some need to FTP savesets or executables and
wouldn't
> know this stuff.  I have to jump through the hoops to get patches from
> Compaq's (and third party's) websites to work, and sooner or later they
will
> also have to "jump".   :-)
> =20
>
> David Taubner=20
> CIS Systems Administrator=20
> Health Sciences Centre=20
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jan-erik S=F6derholm (QAC)
[mailto:Jan-erik.Soderholm at pac.ericsson.se]
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 9:33 AM
> To: 'samba-vms at lists.samba.org'
> Subject: RE: Problems installing on an Alpha system
>
> Or simply use a VMS-aware ZIP version on both systems.
> =20
> Then you just ZIP the file, FTP through any number of systems
> (as binary), and then UNZIP on the target VMS system. Works
> for *any* variant of a VMS file. BCK, RBF, OBJ whatever.
> =20
> I'v neved had to adjust anything after the UNZIP.
> =20
> Jan-Erik S=F6derholm.
> =20
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: David Taubner [mailto:DTaubner at exchange.hsc.mb.ca]
> Sent: den 7 februari 2002 15:33
> To: 'samba-vms at lists.samba.org'
> Subject: RE: Problems installing on an Alpha system
>
> Here is some useful info to transfer files from a PC to OpenVMS:
> =20
> If you need to transfer a software patch through an intermediate
non-OpenVMS
> system, use BINARY mode to transfer the files to and from that system.=20
> =20
> Also, make sure the save set record size is 2048 bytes when you transfer
the
> file from the intermediate system to your OpenVMS system:=20
> =20
> * If you use the GET command to download the file from the intermediate
> system, use the FTP RECORD-SIZE 2048 command before transferring the
file.=
> =20
> =20
> * If you use the PUT command to upload the file to your OpenVMS system,
log
> into the intermediate system and use the FTP quote site rms recsize 2048
> command before transferring the file.=20
> =20
> =20
> =20
> When transferring VMS backup savesets, the correct block size is often
lost,
> resulting in an inability for BACKUP to read the file.=20
> You can correct this using the following command:=20
> =20
> SET FILE/ATTRIBUTES=3D(LRL=3D32256,RFM:FIX) SAVESET.BCK=20
> =20
> (assuming the correct blocksize is 32256).=20
> =20
>
> David Taubner=20
> CIS Systems Administrator=20
> Health Sciences Centre=20
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Meehan [mailto:PeterM at georgejames.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 3:59 AM
> To: 'samba-vms at lists.samba.org'
> Subject: Problems installing on an Alpha system
>
> Hi,=20
>
> I am a complete beginner with Samba and do not have a lot of VMS
experience,
> I guess my problems are prob with VMS rather than Samba.
>
> I have an Alpha 1000 running open VMS 7.1,  I downloaded the binary
version
> of Samba 2.0.3 (Alpha version samba-2_0_3-vms0-bin_alpha) onto a PC
(Windows
> NT4) from a samba mirror site ,  I extracted the zipped files on the PC
and
> transferred them to the Alpha by FTP (WS FTP PRO) using auto detect for
the
> binary/text option.
>
> I also downloaded the cnlt file (samba_crtl-021-bin_alpha) dated the 15th
> November 1999 into the same directory and did @LINK as instructed in the
> readme.vms file.
>
> I got this error=20
>
> %RMS-W-RTB, 512 byte record too large for user's buffer=20
>
> Do I have to make some changes to the VMS set up or has something gone
wrong
> in the download ftp process?  All help appreciated
>
> Regards=20
> Peter=20
>
> George James Software
> 42-44 High Street
> Shepperton
> Middlesex
> TW17 9AU
> United Kingdom=20
> www.georgejames.com
> +44-1932-252568=20
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> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN
class=3D395104015-07=
> 022002>Right=20
> - zip works best.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
> class=3D395104015-07022002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN
class=3D395104015-07=
> 022002>I=20
> should have mentioned - </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial
color=3D#0000ff=20
> size=3D2><SPAN class=3D395104015-07022002>I wanted to pass this info to
the=
>  VMS=20
> newbies who would likely encounter some need to FTP savesets or
executables=
>  and=20
> wouldn't know this stuff.&nbsp; I have to jump through the hoops to get
pat=
> ches=20
> from Compaq's (and third party's)&nbsp;websites&nbsp;to work, and sooner
or=
> =20
> later they will also have to "jump".&nbsp;&nbsp; :-)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><FONT
f=
> ace=3DArial=20
> color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT><BR>
> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>David Taubner</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial
=
> size=3D2>CIS=20
> Systems Administrator</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Health
Science=
> s=20
> Centre</FONT> </P>
> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>   <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT
face=3DTah=
> oma=20
>   size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Jan-erik S=F6derholm
=
> (QAC)=20
>   [mailto:Jan-erik.Soderholm at pac.ericsson.se]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday,
Feb=
> ruary=20
>   07, 2002 9:33 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
'samba-vms at lists.samba.org'<BR><B>Subject:=
> </B>=20
>   RE: Problems installing on an Alpha system<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
>   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN
class=3D039253115-=
> 07022002>Or=20
>   simply use a VMS-aware ZIP version on both systems.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
>   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
>   class=3D039253115-07022002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
>   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN
class=3D039253115-=
> 07022002>Then=20
>   you just ZIP the file, FTP through any number of
system</SPAN></FONT><FON=
> T=20
>   face=3DTahoma><FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3D039253115-07022002><FONT
face=
> =3DArial=20
>   color=3D#0000ff>s</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
>   <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT size=3D2><SPAN
class=3D039253115-07022002>=
> <FONT=20
>   face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff>(as binary), and then UNZIP on the target
VM=
> S=20
>   system.&nbsp;Works</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
>   <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT size=3D2><SPAN
class=3D039253115-07022002>=
> <FONT=20
>   face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff>for *any* variant of a VMS file. BCK, RBF,
O=
> BJ=20
>   whatever.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
>   <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
>   class=3D039253115-07022002></SPAN></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
>   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN
class=3D039253115-=
> 07022002>I'v=20
>   neved had to adjust anything after the UNZIP.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
>   <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
>   class=3D039253115-07022002></SPAN></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
>   <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT size=3D2><SPAN
class=3D039253115-07022002>=
> <FONT=20
>   face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff>Jan-Erik
S=F6derholm.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></=
> FONT></DIV>
>   <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
>   class=3D039253115-07022002></SPAN></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
>   <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
>   class=3D039253115-07022002>&nbsp;</SPAN>-----Original=20
>   Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> David Taubner=20
>   [mailto:DTaubner at exchange.hsc.mb.ca]<BR><B>Sent:</B> den 7 februari
2002=
> =20
>   15:33<BR><B>To:</B> 'samba-vms at lists.samba.org'<BR><B>Subject:</B>
RE:=20
>   Problems installing on an Alpha system<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
>   <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"></FONT>
>     <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
>     class=3D932202714-07022002>Here is some useful info to transfer files
f=
> rom a=20
>     PC to OpenVMS:</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
>     <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
>     class=3D932202714-07022002></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
>     <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
>     class=3D932202714-07022002>I</SPAN>f you need to transfer a software
pa=
> tch=20
>     through an intermediate non-OpenVMS system, use BINARY mode to
transfer=
>  the=20
>     files to and from that system. </FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
>     <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
>     <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
>     class=3D932202714-07022002>Also,</SPAN>&nbsp;make sure the save set
rec=
> ord=20
>     size is 2048 bytes when you transfer the file from the intermediate
sys=
> tem=20
>     to your OpenVMS system: </FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
>     <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
>     <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>* If you use the GET
c=
> ommand to=20
>     download the file from the intermediate system, use the FTP
RECORD-SIZE=
>  2048=20
>     command before transferring the file. </FONT></DIV>
>     <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
>     <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>* If you use the PUT
c=
> ommand to=20
>     upload the file to your OpenVMS system, log into the intermediate
syste=
> m and=20
>     use the FTP quote site rms recsize 2048 command before transferring
the=
> =20
>     file. </FONT></DIV>
>     <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
>     <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
>     <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
>     <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>When transferring VMS
=
> backup=20
>     savesets, the correct block size is often lost, resulting in an
inabili=
> ty=20
>     for BACKUP to read the file. <BR>You can correct this using the
followi=
> ng=20
>     command: </FONT></DIV>
>     <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
>     <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>SET=20
>     FILE/ATTRIBUTES=3D(LRL=3D32256,RFM:FIX) SAVESET.BCK </FONT></DIV>
>     <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
>     <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>(assuming the correct
=
> blocksize=20
>     is 32256). </FONT></DIV>
>     <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><BR>
>     <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>David Taubner</FONT> <BR><FONT
face=3DAr=
> ial=20
>     size=3D2>CIS Systems Administrator</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=
> =3D2>Health=20
>     Sciences Centre</FONT> </P>
>     <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>       <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=
> =3DTahoma=20
>       size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Peter Meehan=20
>       [mailto:PeterM at georgejames.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February
07=
> ,=20
>       2002 3:59 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
'samba-vms at lists.samba.org'<BR><B>Subject:=
> </B>=20
>       Problems installing on an Alpha system<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
>       <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi,</FONT> </P>
>       <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am a complete beginner with Samba
an=
> d do not=20
>       have a lot of VMS experience,&nbsp; I guess my problems are prob
with=
>  VMS=20
>       rather than Samba.</FONT></P>
>       <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have an Alpha 1000 running open
VMS=
> =20
>       7.1,&nbsp; I downloaded the binary version of Samba 2.0.3 (Alpha
vers=
> ion=20
>       samba-2_0_3-vms0-bin_alpha) onto a PC (Windows NT4) from a samba
mirr=
> or=20
>       site ,&nbsp; I extracted the zipped files on the PC and transferred
t=
> hem=20
>       to the Alpha by FTP (WS FTP PRO) using auto detect for the
binary/tex=
> t=20
>       option.</FONT></P>
>       <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I also downloaded the cnlt file=20
>       (samba_crtl-021-bin_alpha) dated the 15th November 1999 into the
same=
> =20
>       directory and did @LINK as instructed in the readme.vms
file.</FONT><=
> /P>
>       <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I got this error</FONT> </P>
>       <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>%RMS-W-RTB, 512 byte record too large
=
> for=20
>       user's buffer</FONT> </P>
>       <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Do I have to make some changes to the
=
> VMS set=20
>       up or has something gone wrong in the download ftp process?&nbsp;
All=
>  help=20
>       appreciated</FONT></P>
>       <P><B><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Regards</FONT></B> <BR><B><FONT
fac=
> e=3DArial=20
>       size=3D2>Peter</FONT></B> </P>
>       <P><B><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#000080 size=3D2>George James=20
>       Software</FONT></B><FONT face=3D"Times New
Roman"><BR></FONT><FONT=20
>       face=3DArial color=3D#000080 size=3D2>42-44 High Street</FONT><FONT=
> =20
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face=
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>       color=3D#000080 size=3D2>TW17 9AU</FONT><FONT=20
>       face=3D"Times New Roman"><BR></FONT><FONT face=3DArial
color=3D#00008=
> 0=20
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</FONT>=
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size=3D2>www.georgejames.com</FONT><FONT=
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