Fwd: docs: Building with Makefile

[Timur I. Bakeyev]

On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 11:16 AM, Andreas Schneider via samba-technical <
samba-technical at lists.samba.org> wrote:

> On Saturday, 6 January 2018 20:48:14 CET Jeremy Allison wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 06, 2018 at 05:48:17PM +0100, Andreas Schneider via samba-
> technical wrote:
> > > On Saturday, 6 January 2018 03:18:11 CET Richard Sharpe via
> > > samba-technical
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 12:18 PM, Andreas Schneider via
> samba-technical
> > > >
> > > > <samba-technical at lists.samba.org> wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, 5 January 2018 19:56:02 CET Björn Jacke wrote:
> > > > >> The branch, master has been updated
> > > > >>
> > > > >>        via  3cbeaf4 docs-xml: add basic Makefile dependencies for
> > > > >>        targets
> > > > >>
> > > > >> that use xsltproc via  9b27948 docs-xml: set a reasonable
> > > > >> XML_CATALOG_FILES
> > > > >> in Makefile via  a2f5b3b docs-xml: generate build/catalog.xml via
> > > > >> Makefile
> > > > >> target from  2245a4b autobuild: fix quoting of --restrict-tests
> > > > >>
> > > > >> https://git.samba.org/?p=samba.git;a=shortlog;h=master
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> - Log
> > > > >> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >> commit 3cbeaf40937082bd7072d715ae02aa0989835432
> > > > >> Author: Björn Jacke <bjacke at samba.org>
> > > > >> Date:   Thu Jan 4 16:35:12 2018 +0100
> > > > >>
> > > > >>     docs-xml: add basic Makefile dependencies for targets that use
> > > > >>     xsltproc
> > > > >
> > > > > Why do you build with Makefile? Is the stuff in waf so bad?
> > > >
> > > > Waf is a heap of shit that invalidates all my other knowledge about
> > > > autotools and removes functionality we used to have, like out-of-tree
> > > > builds of VFS modules.
> > >
> > > Hey, I was the one who wanted to use CMake but then someone told me
> that
> > > waf is better than butter on bread. Now we maintain a broken build
> system
> > > which doesn't work with python3.
> > >
> > > But hey we have install_with_python.sh which downloads and builds
> python2
> > > for us, that's future proof!
> > >
> > > :-P
> >
> > IMHO waf has not been a success, even though Metze likes
> > the fact it is raw python :-). I don't think anyone expected
> > that python2 and python3 would be entirely different languages :-).
>
> Distritubtions are working on deprecating python2. This means it will be
> completely removed


I believe Jelmer once worked on switching to WAF 1.8.0, which was already
Python3 friendly.

I guess, from there it would be easier to leap to the WAF 2.0.4. We still
have some artifacts of
not fully porting from autotools to WAF, so converting to yet another build
system will make that
pain doubled.