Does samba have a code of conduct?

[ronnie sahlberg]

Agree 100%
Way too often CoC become a weapon against people that you don't like
for whatever reason.
IMHO: At best they are waste of time or a harmless distraction, at
worst they attract the wrong kind of people that will want to
politicize what used to be a pure technical meritocracy.


Anyway,
Samba already has an implicit code of conduct. It is the same code of
conduct that pretty much the entirety of society and the real world
use :
_Don't be a jerk or someone will tell you to stop. If you don;'t stop,
eventually everyone will avoid you and you will be lonely._

I would like to thank both Richard and Jeremy for demonstrating so
well with a real world example why samba already have all the code of
conduct it needs.




On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 2:46 PM, Jeremy Allison via samba-technical
<samba-technical at lists.samba.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 01:51:34PM +1000, William Brown wrote:
>>
>> I would like to see the samba community recognised as a place of
>> technical excellence, and as a supportive and open community. That
>> means that people should feel able and safe to contribute without fear
>> of insults or other mocking comments. Too often we hear of stories of
>> insults, harrasment and more coming from software projects. Every one
>> of those stories is potentially scaring away a future contributor or
>> user.
>
> We haven't had any real horrors like that in Samba (yet, there's
> always a first time of course).
>
> It helps that this our lists are mainly places of pure technical
> discussion, without the politics involved in many younger projects.
>
> That's not to say there *aren't* politics of course (as there
> are in all human endeavors), but they don't tend to dominate
> our communications here.
>
>> A code of conduct is a list of behaviours that a community should
>> aspire to model. It's not about policing speech, as about defining who
>> you want to be and how you want to be seen as a project.
>
> That's the *intent*. It's not how it often ends up being used, however.
>
> See my paragraph below for more on my personal experiences with
> such things.
>
>> Today in our industry, more than ever we are starting to see the need
>> for our communities to be positive and kind in our actions. From
>> helping to mentor future students, allowing blameless analysis of
>> incidents, improving discussions on code reviews, and including people
>> from all walks of life.
>
> In my day job I have seen many cases where "Codes of Conduct"
> and "Non-bias training" are being used to bully and intimidate
> people who don't agree with the majority politics of the dominant
> group.
>
> I have been the target of such activities myself (which
> to be honest I found pretty surprising, as I thought I *did*
> agree with the majority politics of the dominant group :-).
> It's that kind of experience that sticks with you (yes, you're
> politically pure, just not pure *enough* :-).
>
> Code of Conducts were the weapon of choice there.
>
> So in my experience, a code of conduct is *precisely* about
> policing speech. In fact that's the only way I've ever seen
> them used.
>
> I am not keen to see this activity extended to the Samba project
> mailing lists, which up until now have been remarkably free of
> such things.
>
>> My request was not intended to police speech, but to ask about the
>> nature of the community in this project. As someone who is looking to
>> contribute more of my time to this project, it's worth knowing the
>> character of the community and how we desire to interact.
>
> I hope you continue to contribute more, all are welcome
> here without any discrimination.
>
>> I hope this helps, and once again, thank you for apologising.
>
> It does help, thanks.
>
> Jeremy.
>