[PATCH] RFC: vfs cachedir
Jim McDonough
jmcd at samba.org
Wed Apr 19 19:48:35 UTC 2017
On 04/19/2017 01:14 PM, Jeremy Allison via samba-technical wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 03:49:24PM +0200, Aurélien Aptel via samba-technical wrote:
>>
>> That means that:
>>
>> - if you take the current offset with telldir
>> - delete files in the dir
>> - and seek to that same offset with seekdir
>>
>> the same offset might point to a different file.
>>
>> DIR*
>> off.
>> 0 file a
>> 10 file b
>> -> 20 file c
>> 30 file d
>>
>> telldir(dir) == 20
>> ...something somewhere delete file a...
>> seekdir(dir, 20)
>>
>> DIR*
>> off.
>> 0 file b
>> 10 file c
>> -> 20 file d
>>
>> next readdir() will return file d instead of file c.
>>
>> Here is what POSIX[1] says about readdir():
>>
>>> If a file is removed from or added to the directory after the most
>>> recent call to opendir() or rewinddir(), whether a subsequent call to
>>> readdir() returns an entry for that file is unspecified.
>
> Oh sorry, missed this. I assumed that you were
> having problems on NFS with no one else writing
> or deleting in the directory.
>
> Yes of course if someone is writing into the directory
> then all bets are off w.r.t. getting coherence out of
> readdir etc.
>
> This is a race condition you simply can't win.
In this case, windows is racing itself. "del *" or "move *" triggers
it. As each chunk is returned, all those files are deleted. _then_ the
search is resumed, but we're lost.
>
> Even if you opendir/readdir..../closedir
> there's no guarentee that someone didn't
> delete one of the names you read with
> readdir.
>
> The only way around this is directory
> leases, and break the lease to let the
> client know someone else is writing into
> the directory.
>
> But even with that there's still no way to fix a race
> condition like this - all you're doing is
> exposing a frozen snapshot that can be
> out of date from the moment you return it.
>
Yep, but frankly we're simply lucky that "del *" works on a local fs.
Apparently ext<n>, btrfs, xfs, etc. are just not updating the directory
from the viewpoint of our open handle as frequently. Windows cmd.exe
clearly expects the behavior of a frozen snapshot.
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