Technical Release Manager for Samba
abartlet at samba.org
Wed May 6 15:44:55 MDT 2015
On Tue, 2015-05-05 at 12:36 -0700, Jeremy Allison wrote:
> On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 08:41:10PM +0200, Volker Lendecke wrote:
> > On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 08:13:18PM +0200, Michael Adam wrote:
> > > On 2015-05-05 at 16:41 +0200, Stefan (metze) Metzmacher wrote:
> > > > > In thinking about 4 month release cycles, I've been concerned that our
> > > > > current 'nobody is in charge'/consensus mode of operation may make practical
> > > > > operation difficult.
> > > >
> > > > As written before I think 4 month cycles are too short for us.
> > > > 6 would be ok for me.
> > >
> > > Is this a gut feeling or is there reasoning behind this?
> > >
> > > For me, this really depends on how much we would be able to
> > > slim down the release and maintenance work:
> > >
> > > I do certainly see the appeal for having very short release
> > > cycles. By having releases very frequently (<= 4 months), each
> > > single one becomes much less important, and more easy to do.
> > We need to revisit our support statement then. With 4 months, a single
> > release is only supported for a year. This might be pretty short for some.
> Six months is clearly too short. My preference - aim for 6 months,
> and don't be too upset if it ends up at 9.
> We have to step back and ask who the releases are for ?
> OEMs usually have their own release tree - they use our
> release numbers as a guide, but are willing and able to
> use git trees and back-port specific patches for their
> Linux distros IMHO are the biggest consumers of our release
> streams, so I'd like to hear what would work best for
We also have a large and growing number of users deploying Samba's AD
DC. I strongly suspect that most of our AD DC installs are not from a
linux distro, but from source or from Sernet's packages. Certainly is
is where I hear most of customers installing Samba from, as no matter
what we do the version in CentOS/RHEL will be 'too old' for them.
Volker: Do you have any numbers for how many users and downloads you
For Debian, for which I'm a part (if not as active as I should be) of
the packaging team, my feeling is that the long release cycles really
don't work well. Rather than meshing with the releases, they seem to
clash - causing Debian Stable to end up with an even older release.
Andrew Bartlett http://samba.org/~abartlet/
Authentication Developer, Samba Team http://samba.org
Samba Developer, Catalyst IT http://catalyst.net.nz/services/samba
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