Fw: [PROPOSAL] To retire autoconf for 4.1

Ricky Nance ricky.nance at gmail.com
Thu May 23 15:18:20 MDT 2013 

What? Why is it a bad idea on a system without python?

Ricky


On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 3:33 PM, C.J. Adams-Collier KF7BMP <
cjac at colliertech.org> wrote:

> Oh, god.  Oh, god.  This is *so* not a good idea people.  REVERT REVERT.
>
> On Thu, 2013-05-23 at 09:33 -0500, Ricky Nance wrote:
> > If you get too new of a version of python (3.0+), it can break thinks,
> this
> > version is known to work with samba. I'd be willing to bet that 2.7.5
> will
> > cause things to break, but I haven't tested it myself (I want to say
> 2.7.3
> > worked, so I very well could be wrong about this).
> >
> > Good luck,
> > Ricky
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 9:15 AM, <yaberger at ca.ibm.com> wrote:
> >
> > > nevermind, install_with_python.sh is part of samba-4.0.6.tar.gz
> > >
> > > However, I'm not sure I like it.
> > > It tries to use rsync (not available on our system but can be
> installed)
> > > to download this file:
> > > ftp://ftp.samba.org/pub/tridge/python/Python-2.6.5.tar
> > > It doesn't look like something recent (2.6.5 was released in 2010,
> 2.6.8
> > > and 2.7.5 are available)
> > >
> > > I believe I would prefer to build and maintain it myself.
> > >
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Yannick Bergeron
> > > 450 534-7711
> > > yaberger at ca.ibm.com
> > > Advisory IT Specialist
> > >
> > > Never say never, say "it depends" / Ne jamais dire jamais, dites "ca
> > > dépend"
> > > ----- Forwarded by Yannick Y Bergeron/Bromont/IBM on 05/23/2013 10:12
> AM
> > > -----
> > >
> > > From:        Yannick Y Bergeron/Bromont/IBM
> > > To:        Ricky Nance <ricky.nance at gmail.com>,
> > > Cc:        Andrew Bartlett <abartlet at samba.org>, Samba Technical <
> > > samba-technical at lists.samba.org>
> > > Date:        05/23/2013 10:08 AM
> > > Subject:        Re: [PROPOSAL] To retire autoconf for 4.1
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > > Can't find it in the samba-4.0.6.tar.gz
> > >
> > > It seems to be in master with the name "install_with_python.sh"
> > > *this script installs a private copy of python in the same prefix as
> Samba
> > > *
> > >
> > > This would definitely looks like an interesting alternative if the
> Samba
> > > team keep this version up-to-date with security issues.
> > > If I can find a few minutes, I might attempt to fetch the master tree
> and
> > > see if I can build it with it
> > >
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Yannick Bergeron
> > > 450 534-7711
> > > yaberger at ca.ibm.com
> > > Advisory IT Specialist
> > >
> > > Never say never, say "it depends" / Ne jamais dire jamais, dites "ca
> > > dépend"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From:        Ricky Nance <ricky.nance at gmail.com>
> > > To:        yaberger at ca.ibm.com,
> > > Cc:        Samba Technical <samba-technical at lists.samba.org>, Andrew
> > > Bartlett <abartlet at samba.org>
> > > Date:        05/23/2013 09:41 AM
> > > Subject:        Re: [PROPOSAL] To retire autoconf for 4.1
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Give the build_with_python.sh script a try. I am at work right now and
> > > can't confirm that is the correct name, but it should be similar, and
> it
> > > will be in the base directory.
> > >
> > > Ricky
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 8:27 AM, <*yaberger at ca.ibm.com*<
> yaberger at ca.ibm.com>>
> > > wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > We are using Samba 3.6.x built by ourself on AIX with IBM XL C/C++
> > > compiler, with the autoconf build system and it's working without
> issue.
> > > We use Samba mainly for its file-server feature to share DFS, GPFS and
> > > JFS2 filesystems to Windows systems and to Linux workstations.
> > > We will be looking in the upcoming months/years (before you stop
> providing
> > >
> > > security fixes for 3.6) to upgrade to Samba 4.x (file-server only) so
> we
> > > hope to be able to build it in our environment.
> > >
> > > We currently don't have Python on these systems as nothing requires it.
> > > There is no IBM supported python package for AIX.
> > > There is some sites providing Python packages (such as*
> > > **http://www-frec.bull.com/* <http://www-frec.bull.com/> and *
> > > http://www.perzl.org/aix/* <http://www.perzl.org/aix/>) but on a best
> > > effort basis and not always at the latest release.
> > > Being able to be on a supported version (or at least, an up-to-date
> > > version for security fixes) is mandatory for us.
> > > Therefore, the most logical solution remaining is to build Python
> ourself
> > > and maintain it.
> > >
> > > I believe waf requires Python 2.x so I've tried to compile Python
> 2.7.5 on
> > >
> > > AIX with IBM XL C/C++.
> > > "configure" and "make" worked well.
> > > make test is throwing some error and wasn't able to complete
> > > test_hotshot
> > > make: 1254-059 The signal code from the last command is 11.
> > > Stop.
> > > I've did the make install anyway, tested it with a simple python script
> > > and it worked.
> > >
> > > I've downloaded Samba 4.0.6 and tried it with waf following this wiki:*
> > > **https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Waf#Using_waf_directly*<
> https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Waf#Using_waf_directly>
> > > cd lib/tdb
> > > waf configure --enable-developer --prefix=$HOME/testprefix
> > > waf
> > > waf install
> > >
> > > One of the "warning" I've got while running "waf" is that many options
> are
> > >
> > > not supported by IBM XL C/C++ (but probably are by gcc)
> > > /usr/vacpp/bin/xlc_r: 1501-289 (W) Option -Wall was incorrectly
> specified.
> > > The option will be ignored.
> > > /usr/vacpp/bin/xlc_r: 1501-289 (W) Option -Wshadow was incorrectly
> > > specified. The option will be ignored.
> > > /usr/vacpp/bin/xlc_r: 1501-289 (W) Option -Werror=strict-prototypes was
> > > incorrectly specified. The option will be ignored.
> > > /usr/vacpp/bin/xlc_r: 1501-289 (W) Option -Wstrict-prototypes was
> > > incorrectly specified. The option will be ignored.
> > > /usr/vacpp/bin/xlc_r: 1501-289 (W) Option -Werror=pointer-arith was
> > > incorrectly specified. The option will be ignored.
> > > /usr/vacpp/bin/xlc_r: 1501-289 (W) Option -Wpointer-arith was
> incorrectly
> > > specified. The option will be ignored.
> > > /usr/vacpp/bin/xlc_r: 1501-289 (W) Option -Wcast-align was incorrectly
> > > specified. The option will be ignored.
> > > /usr/vacpp/bin/xlc_r: 1501-289 (W) Option -Werror=write-strings was
> > > incorrectly specified. The option will be ignored.
> > > /usr/vacpp/bin/xlc_r: 1501-289 (W) Option -Wwrite-strings was
> incorrectly
> > > specified. The option will be ignored.
> > > /usr/vacpp/bin/xlc_r: 1501-289 (W) Option
> > > -Werror-implicit-function-declaration was incorrectly specified. The
> > > option will be ignored.
> > > /usr/vacpp/bin/xlc_r: 1501-289 (W) Option -Wformat=2 was incorrectly
> > > specified. The option will be ignored.
> > > /usr/vacpp/bin/xlc_r: 1501-289 (W) Option -Wno-format-y2k was
> incorrectly
> > > specified. The option will be ignored.
> > > /usr/vacpp/bin/xlc_r: 1501-289 (W) Option -Wmissing-prototypes was
> > > incorrectly specified. The option will be ignored.
> > > /usr/vacpp/bin/xlc_r: 1501-289 (W) Option -Werror=address was
> incorrectly
> > > specified. The option will be ignored.
> > > /usr/vacpp/bin/xlc_r: 1501-289 (W) Option -Wcast-qual was incorrectly
> > > specified. The option will be ignored.
> > > /usr/vacpp/bin/xlc_r: 1501-289 (W) Option -Werror=format was
> incorrectly
> > > specified. The option will be ignored.
> > >
> > > I've did it again but from the samba-4.0.6 directory this time.
> > > gzip -cd samba-4.0.6.tar.gz |tar xf -
> > > cd samba-4.0.6
> > > waf configure --enable-developer --prefix=/usr/local/samba-4.0.6
> > > waf
> > > waf install
> > > I've had the following error while running "waf"
> > > "../lib/socket/interfaces.c", line 150.42: 1506-045 (S) Undeclared
> > > identifier IFF_UP.
> > > "../lib/socket/interfaces.c", line 204.44: 1506-045 (S) Undeclared
> > > identifier IFF_BROADCAST.
> > > "../lib/socket/interfaces.c", line 204.58: 1506-045 (S) Undeclared
> > > identifier IFF_LOOPBACK.
> > > "../lib/socket/interfaces.c", line 208.51: 1506-045 (S) Undeclared
> > > identifier IFF_POINTOPOINT.
> > > Waf: Leaving directory `/usr/src/samba-4.0.6/bin'
> > > Build failed:  -> task failed (err #1):
> > >         {task: cc interfaces.c -> interfaces_1.o}
> > > The problem is probably related to the code itself and not to the waf
> > > build engine.
> > > But as this haven't allowed me to complete the build, I don't know if I
> > > would have any waf issue after that.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Conclusion
> > > While I'm not 100% comfortable to see the autoconf build option
> removed, I
> > >
> > > don't have any strong technical argument to be against.
> > > I would however try to find time with one of the Samba team member to
> see
> > > if it would be possible to fix the warnings/errors reported on AIX with
> > > IBM XL C/C++.
> > >
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > >
> > > Yannick Bergeron
> > > 450 534-7711*
> > > **yaberger at ca.ibm.com* <yaberger at ca.ibm.com>
> > > Advisory IT Specialist
> > >
> > > Never say never, say "it depends" / Ne jamais dire jamais, dites "ca
> > > dépend"
> > >
> > >
>
>

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