Samba 4 Slow Performance

[David Collier-Brown]

On 07/30/2013 10:35 PM, Andrew Bartlett wrote:
> On Wed, 2013-07-31 at 10:07 +0800, Kinglok, Fong wrote:
>> On 29 Jul, 2013, at 1:13 PM, Andrew Bartlett <abartlet at samba.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 2013-07-27 at 23:20 +0800, Kinglok, Fong wrote:
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> After using samba 3 for two years, I have just spent totally one week
>>>> finishing setting up a samba 4 file system in my working school.
>>>> There are about 200 computers, 80+ staff, 1000 students and 10
>>>> printers.  The AD was properly setup, mandatory profile and one GPO
>>>> policy (which is printer download trust) is effective for all users.
>>>> Logon script is for mapping four shares and 10 printers from the file
>>>> server.   Also, I have setup two additional DCs (with AD replication
>>>> and DHCP server) for two other subnets in the hope to speed up the
>>>> logon process.
>>>>
>>>> The benefits of Samba 4 are clear: more robust file serving
>>>> (supporting the windows ACL), speedy printing (with the help of point
>>>> and printer driver) and administration of AD through with windows
>>>> remote admin tool.  However, logon speed is just far from good.
>>>>
>>>> In the days of Samba 3.6, users can logon the system within 20
>>>> seconds, even with more than 80 users logon in the same time (two
>>>> classes students login during computer lesson).  Now, with only one
>>>> user logging in (who is me), it takes nearly 60 seconds to do the
>>>> logon.  I have tried disabling drive and printer mapping in logon
>>>> script and applying a registry hack (note 1) shorten the profile
>>>> waiting time in windows 7 client side but it makes no difference in
>>>> logon speed.
>>>>
>>>> I have taken a look on the document in sambaXP 2013:
>>>> http://sambaxp.org/fileadmin/user_upload/SambaXP2013-DATA/thu/track1/Matthieu_Patou-Smaller_Faster_Scalier.pdf
>>>>
>>>> and two thread in samba-technical mailing list:
>>>> https://lists.samba.org/archive/samba-technical/2013-January/089755.html
>>>> https://lists.samba.org/archive/samba-technical/2013-May/092332.html
>>>>
>>>> It seems that samba team is doing some great work in spotting the
>>>> unindexed search in LDB as one of block in performance. 
>>> It is one block, but it is the one we expect to really hit at around
>>> 10000, not 1000-2000.  As Richard has indicated, what we need from you
>>> is an indication of what operation is slow.  Timeouts of this order
>>> indicate something different to a slow database - they indicate things
>>> like DNS timeing out. 
>>>
>>> Once you work out which specific operation is blocking, we can
>>> investigate more - be it in regards to your network, or our code, we
>>> don't mind either way, but we need to work out which to look into.
>>>
>>> Andrew Bartlett
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Andrew Bartlett
>>> http://samba.org/~abartlet/
>>> Authentication Developer, Samba Team           http://samba.org
>>> Samba Developer, Catalyst IT                   http://catalyst.net.nz
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Thank you all for responding.
>>
>> In these days, I am trying hard to understand the reason of the delay in logon.
>>
>> Following your advice, I've done some test on
>> 1. Profile deploying
>> 2. GPO
>>
>> For the first one, I try using roaming profile for one testing user, it turns out 7 seconds to logon the system.  It seems that the culprit of the delay is in the my old mandatory profile.
>> For the second one, I try disable all GPO (I only enable point and printer driver trust and folder redirection), turning it on / off does not change the logon time significantly.
>>
>> So, I try digging into how to create mandatory profile properly once again.  Here I found:
>> http://oakdome.com/k5/tutorials/windows-7-mandatory-roaming-profile.php
>>
>> By following the link's instruction, I found it needs 20 seconds in logon.  I hope I can further decrease the logon time (anyone got a hint?)
>>
>> I will keep updating the list if I found something worth sharing.
> Thanks for getting back to us.  It sounds like this is mostly a
> client-side delay than a Samba issue. 
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andrew Bartlett
>
It might be wise to turn on (or add!) a report of the response time for
the request used to deliver profiles from Samba to the client: if the
problem lies with the client, the response time at the Samba end should
stay roughly the same while the client-side times vary wildly.

--dave (a performance engineer, something you could probably guess from
the comment (:-)) c-b

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