Samba 4 and winbind

Rowland Penny repenny at
Mon Apr 15 13:34:07 MDT 2013

On 15/04/13 20:02, Ira Cooper wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Rowland Penny <repenny at 
> <mailto:repenny at>> wrote:
>     On 15/04/13 19:03, Jeremy Allison wrote:
>         Oh cry me a river :-). Linux users are the complete
>         focus of Samba. If you want to hear moaning, run on
>         HPUX or AIX :-).
>         Jeremy.
>     I personally do not use HPUX or AIX, but I am sure any problems
>     users of either have, are just as valid as mine.
> Rowland,
> All the people with " <>" email addresses? 
>  We're here to help.
> If you wish to flame us, what we work on, and how we do it.  You may 
> find that help much more difficult to obtain.
> We only have so many hours in a day.  Do we work on the user's bug who 
> told us to go .... ourselves basically, or one who wants to be 
> constructive and is pleasant to work with.
> You can convey the SAME sentiments without offending those around you. 
>  If Jeremy is laying into you... one of the team's most valuable 
> resources is closing off to you simply due to your attitude.
> I do use a non-Linux platform, and Jeremy is right.  It IS harder. 
>  Heck, sometimes I can't even BUILD releases.  I work on it when I 
> can, as I can.  But if I haven't been working on it for 3-4 months... 
> I expect problems.
> In conclusion:  You should think about your approach to your problems, 
> and why you aren't getting the treatment you want.  But don't shoot 
> off your mouth about what you don't understand.  You might turn off 
> another developer.  Like me.
> Good luck,
> -Ira
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I do not mean to upset anybody, but sometimes I have found that jumping 
up and down, throwing a tantrum gets results, for instance, I could not 
find anything anywhere on how winbind worked on S4, but Alexander 
Bokovoy has just posted, in way that I can understand, how it works.

As for shooting my mouth off about what I don't understand, most of the 
lack of understanding is due to (as with most open source programs) a 
lack of good documentation, If I can find documentation, I will read it 
and try to understand it.

I would like to say, that sometimes, and please don't take this the 
wrong way, programs get bogged down in what they are doing and don't 
consider the end user, they see what they have to do, but don't consider 
that the end user cannot understand it.

If I have upset anybody then I am sorry, it was not my intention.


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