Confused about samba4 & s3fs

Andrew Bartlett abartlet at samba.org
Sat Aug 18 07:16:41 MDT 2012


On Sat, 2012-08-18 at 14:09 +0100, Rowland Penny wrote:
> On 18/08/12 13:34, Andrew Bartlett wrote: 
> > On Sat, 2012-08-18 at 10:46 +0100, Rowland Penny wrote:
> > > On 18/08/12 09:06, Andrew Bartlett wrote:
> > > > If you run nmbd on a Samba4 DC, then nmbd won't know how to pass on the
> > > > NETLOGON datagram packets to the cldap server, unless specially
> > > > configured with 'cldap proxy'.  Even then, the source IP address is lost
> > > > due to the proxy, which will break sites support.
> > > > 
> > > > Also, you have to turn off the nbt server in 'samba', otherwise when I
> > > > fix it to correctly die when a port is in use, samba won't start.
> > > > 
> > > > Andrew Bartlett
> > > > 
> > > Is any of the above documented anywhere, if it is, I must have missed it.
> > The Samba4 HOWTO only tells you to run 'samba'.  We handle all the other
> > details internally. 
> > 
> > Andrew Bartlett
> > 
> Why say you need to do this and that and then turn round and basically
> say 'but you can't do that anyway' ?
> 
> Please note that I am only running the samba daemon on the server, I
> only turned nmbd on to try it, it seems to work.
> 
> Also why does ' [ANNOUNCE] Samba 4.0 beta6' have the following two
> stanzas:
> 
> Samba 4.0 beta ships with two distinct file servers.  We now use the
> file server from the Samba 3.x series 'smbd' for all file serving by
> default.  For pure file server work, the binaries users would expect
> from that series (nmbd, winbindd, smbpasswd) continue to be available.
> 
>  There is no NetBIOS browsing support (network neighbourhood) in the
>   'samba' binary (use nmbd and smbd instead)
> 
> Samba is saying in ' [ANNOUNCE] Samba 4.0 beta6' that smdb,nmbd &
> winbindd are available for use, and then saying on the forums that you
> should not use them. Which is correct and why, please give the answer
> in terms that a normal user can understand, not developer speak, I do
> not fully understand developer speak.

These different components perform different roles in the Samba system.
The AD DC has only one daemon binary you need to interact with, 'samba'.
Users wishing to have a file server or a domain member server need to
use 'nmbd, smbd and winbindd' as they have done with Samba 3.x

I do appreciate the feedback, as we can certainly improve the text in
WHATSNEW (I've already removed most of the s3fs warnings that were
appropriate in beta2, but not now). 

Andrew Bartlett

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Andrew Bartlett                                http://samba.org/~abartlet/
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