Broken

[Jelmer Vernooij]

Hi Dan,

On Wed, 2010-05-12 at 07:23 -0400, Dan Rudder wrote:
> Thank you all for getting back to me!!!!!
> I filed the report because a dialog box suggested I do so.
> 
> I do not consider myself much more than a newbie when it comes to the 
> guts of Linux. I have been using desktop distros ( Puppy to save old 
> machines that I give to people to use who cannot afford a new computer, 
> PCLINUXOS, Fedora (my only commercial application),and various Ubuntu 
> versions including Mint)  for 5 years. I usually can fix most problems 
> that I run into thanks to Google and my experiences with MS os's and 
> networking.
> 
> I would like to repeat that my problem is not unique to me. How many, I 
> have no way of knowing, just that it appears to be an issue on the forums.
> 
> I had a fully updated machine according to package manager. I did a 
> distro upgrade with apt-get. Samba did not run after upgrade. I tried to 
> start Samba and would get a message to install Samba4, which I did 
> several times. Some times it would work until I restarted the machine 
> and then quit or sometimes it would not work at all. Only after 
> completely removing Samba and then reinstalling did it work. Even then, 
> it would not connect to my MS Workgroup because it was not named 
> "WORKGROUP", until I added my workgroup.
> 
> I use and give out a lot of livecd's for people to try Linux and to 
> rescue broken MS systems. Most people are going to say that if it does 
> not work out of the box (like it use to work), they are not going to use it.
Did you install Samba 3 or Samba 4 ? Ubuntu does not install Samba 4 by
default; its description mentions that it is still experimental. It will
install Samba for you in some situations and that should work smoothly.

Cheers,

Jelmer

> On 05/12/2010 03:42 AM, Jelmer Vernooij wrote:
> > Hi Sassy,
> >
> > On Tue, 2010-05-11 at 17:32 -0700, Sassy Natan wrote:
> >    
> >> Well, I'm sorry this happened.
> >> I will try to explain:
> >>
> >> Ubuntu 9.10 was released on 29 October 2009 and come by default with
> >> samba 3.4.0-3ubuntu5 package. This is Samba3 Version branch, which is
> >> different from samba4.
> >> Now if u did packages update during the time u had ubuntu 9.10, then,
> >> u might end up with 3.4.0-3ubuntu5.6 version, which are some security
> >> fixes and such.
> >>
> >> Now, Ubuntu 10.4 ship with Samba4 and Samba3 as the SMB/CIFS provider
> >> protocol, so if you update the samba pkg from 3 to 4, just because you
> >> was thinking this is kind of upgrade, then it might got conf files out
> >> of control.
> >>
> >> Can u please send us the /etc/samba or /etc/smb files?
> >> If there are being kept as for the samba3 files, we might bring your
> >> old samba3 server up and running.
> >>
> >> Jelmer, How can we prevent this for happening?
> >> Maybe we should do some Samba4 Notification before installing this?
> >>      
> > I don't think there is much we can do here. The samba4 package
> > descriptions already mention it is experimental. It's also already a
> > separate package, you don't get it magically when you upgrade, you
> > have to install it explicitly.
> >
> > We're currently invoking the upgrade scripts to upgrade the s3
> > configuration to s4, though that script needs some extra work.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Jelmer
> >
> >    
> >> Can u think about some other way this could be happening?
> >>
> >> Sassy
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Dan Rudder<dan at rudder.us>  wrote:
> >>      
> >>>
> >>> -------- Original Message --------
> >>> Subject: Re: Broken
> >>> Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 19:59:47 -0400
> >>> From: Dan Rudder<dan at rudder.us>
> >>> To: Andrew Bartlett<abartlet at samba.org>
> >>>
> >>> I am sorry, I do not know how to get the info you want.
> >>> Ubuntu 9.10 was running fine. I upgrade to 10.04 and lost connectivity
> >>> to my Windows network and stand alone networked printers.
> >>> A lot of other users are having this or a similar problem. Just look at
> >>> the Ubuntu forums.
> >>> As far as testing goes, I tried both the beta and final release on the
> >>> live cd with no problems. I did do an in-place upgrade rather than a
> >>> fresh install.
> >>> I reinstall Samaba several times through both package manager and
> >>> apt-get with no luck. I finally went to package manager and completely
> >>> removed all references to Samba and the did a reinstall. It did start up
> >>> and run. It only showed the default "WORKGroup" and not automatically my
> >>> Windows workgroup. Normally my group had been showing up automatically.
> >>> Hope this helps,
> >>> Dan Rudder
> >>> On 05/11/2010 07:38 PM, Andrew Bartlett wrote:
> >>>        
> >>>> On Tue, 2010-05-11 at 16:07 -0400, Dan Rudder wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>          
> >>>>> Samba4 upgrade broke my network!!!!!!!!!!!
> >>>>> It does not start!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>            
> >>>> I'm sorry, I'll need a few more clues than that.
> >>>>
> >>>> Can you tell me what version of samba4 you were running, what version
> >>>> you are running now, what arguments you supplied to upgradeprovision,
> >>>> and what errors you got when you inspected the logs.  (perhaps up the
> >>>> log level to log level 5 for a start).
> >>>>
> >>>> Also, what steps did you take to test the upgrade?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> Andrew Bartlett
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>          
> >
> >
> >