[PATCH 02/18] xstat: Add a pair of system calls to make extended file stats available [ver #6]

J. Bruce Fields bfields at fieldses.org
Mon Aug 16 12:08:29 MDT 2010

On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 10:54:10AM -0700, Jeremy Allison wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 08:54:32AM -0400, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> > On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 06:05:01AM -0700, Jeremy Allison wrote:
> > > We don't need to ape Windows in everything.
> > > The coming ACL disaster will show that (we will go from an ACL
> > > model that is slightly too complex to use, to one that is impossibly
> > > complex to use :-).
> > 
> > Care to elaborate?
> POSIX ACLs -> RichACLs (NT-style). Not criticising Andreas here,
> people are asking for this. But Windows ACLs are a nightmare
> beyond human comprehension :-). In the "too complex to be
> usable" camp.
> > And what would native ACL support mean for Samba?
> RichACLs'll do it, but I feel sorry for the admins :-).

I was curious whether you can support that with any data (or even just
anecdotes) about real-world sysadmins.

The NT-style ACLs give me a headache, honestly.  But that may just be
because I've been involved with the implementation.  Admins may have the
luxury of using only the subset that they're comfortable with.


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