[PATCH 02/18] xstat: Add a pair of system calls to make extended file stats available [ver #6]

Steve French smfrench at gmail.com
Fri Aug 13 12:09:36 MDT 2010

On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Jeremy Allison <jra at samba.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 08:54:32AM -0400, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
>> On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 06:05:01AM -0700, Jeremy Allison wrote:
>> > We don't need to ape Windows in everything.
>> > The coming ACL disaster will show that (we will go from an ACL
>> > model that is slightly too complex to use, to one that is impossibly
>> > complex to use :-).
>> Care to elaborate?
> POSIX ACLs -> RichACLs (NT-style). Not criticising Andreas here,
> people are asking for this. But Windows ACLs are a nightmare
> beyond human comprehension :-). In the "too complex to be
> usable" camp.

Not much choice - even community colleges now have
to teach students about this ACL model in their sysadmin courses.

>> And what would native ACL support mean for Samba?
> RichACLs'll do it, but I feel sorry for the admins :-).

Yes - RichACLs and Windows ACLs allow you to set
some strange combinations of permssion bits.
RichACLs will make a more natural mapping for
Samba and NFSv4 - and it is far too late to
remove the requirement for Windows and
MacOS (among other clients) support.



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