An attempt to patent SMB-like protocols

David Collier-Brown davecb at
Thu Jul 17 19:11:08 GMT 2008

I've passed that on and cited you. Thanks!


Christopher R. Hertel wrote:
> David Collier-Brown wrote:
>>Volker Lendecke wrote:
>>>On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 08:23:21AM -0400, David Collier-Brown wrote:
>>>>Filing Date: November 14, 2006
>>>>Inventors: Kenneth W. Borgendale
>>>>Assignee: IBM
>>>>Current U.S. Classification: 709, 709/206000
>>>>Methods, systems, and products are disclosed for version control for
>>>>application message models that include establishing, on a message
>>>>sending device, a sender message model, the sender message model
>>>>specifying a message format for interpreting application messages,
>>>>the sender message model including one or more sender field
>>>>specifications, each sender field specification specifying a message
>>>>field for storing data in an application message, each sender field
>>>>specification including sender field characteristics; calculating, by
>>>>the message sending device, a sender version number for the sender
>>>>message model in dependence upon the sender field characteristics of
>>>>one or more of the sender field specifications of the sender message
>>>>model; creating, by the message sending device, an application
>>>>message according to the sender message model; and transmitting, by
>>>>the message sending device to a message receiving device, the
>>>>application message and the sender version number for the
>>>>sender message model.
>>>>If you by any chance know of prior use by IBM and Microsoft that fits
>>>>description, you just might want to bring it to the attention of
>>>> (;-))
>>>Pretty tough read, but isn't this what %a in Samba is
>>>supposed to do?
>>I think they're trying to patent having version of messages and reply
>>levels, which probably dates back to the Core protocol (;-))
> Well, let's see...
> The oldest doc I have is "Microsoft Networks/OpenNET FILE SHARING PROTOCOL
> (INTEL Part Number 138446), Document Version 2.0, November 7, 1988"
> It lists NegProt, which seems to meet most of the description above.  The
> TRANS calls were included in another doc released at the same time:
> Protocol Extensions Version 2.0, Document Version 3.3, November 7, 1988"
> So... the Trans calls aren't actually in the Core Protocol.  :)
> Chris -)-----
> ...who now does CIFS archeology for a living.  :P

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