group_mapping.ldb and 3.0.25

Andrew Bartlett abartlet at
Tue Feb 20 22:36:00 GMT 2007

On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 09:28 -0600, Gerald (Jerry) Carter wrote:
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> Tridge,
> > I'm not quite sure why you say that. I have fixed every 
> > bug in Samba3 that I have been asked to look at, and
> > Simo has been equally active in working on ldb. Simo is now
> > the RedHat Samba3 maintainer, and I'm the endpoint for
> > helping IBM customers with Samba3. That would seem to be
> > pretty good credentials.
> > 
> > Is there some outstanding bug that I am not aware of? Have 
> > I ever taken more than a few hours or days to address an
> > issue in my code used in Samba3?
> > 
> > You seem to have written off half the team as not counting as
> > potential maintainers of code. I don't understand why.
> You are reading too much into this.  Simo agreed with my
> decision.  You and I are the only ones discussing this
> currently.

I'm certainly less than comfortable with this.  Tridge may have read too
much into your comment, but it's a feeling that has been going around.
Perhaps as a team, we need to squash some false impressions?

> > I get the feeling there are discussions happening that 
> > I'm not privy to, and perhaps if I knew of them I'd understand
> > better. For example you said "no one working on Samba 3.0.x
> > seems to feel really confident in our ability to deal with ldb
> > on top of everything else". That seems to imply some discussion
> > amoung a group of developers and a decision that I haven't
> > seen. Is that correct?
> There has been constant discussion over the past months about
> wanting to pull ldb.  

We had a storm in a tea-cup over a false alarm about a misunderstanding
about the SAMBA_4_0 version of ldb.  Did I miss something else?

> Yes there are some private emails and
> phone calls.  But mostly everything is in the open and the
> private conversations are more for convenience than anything
> else. If you have noticed the apprehension about ldb for the past
> few months, I can't help that.  

I thought we had that dealt with?  When did we go from 'we are
comfortable with this' to 'not comfortable'?  Or was this a case of
'nobody who actually counted was ever comfortable with this'?

> It just never caught on and
> I don't feel comfortable taking a chance on it without
> having dealt with it more.

I'm not expecting this release to change, but I do wonder how that will

Andrew Bartlett
Andrew Bartlett                      
Authentication Developer, Samba Team 
Samba Developer, Red Hat Inc.        
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