Help Please

Richard Sharpe sharpe at
Mon May 21 03:01:49 GMT 2001

At 11:14 AM 5/21/01 +0900, Kenichi Okuyama wrote:
>Dear Ulf,
>>>>>> "UB" == Ulf Bertilsson <ulf.bertilsson at> writes:
>>> Japan development member pointed out that running Samba as daemons is
>>> convenience for controlled by swat etc.., but it isn't recommended
>>> because of concerning about performance.
>>> There are some reasons:
>>> - inetd is usually optimized with running operating system.
>>> - inetd is usually enougth small resources requirements for fork().
>>> - master smbd/nmbd (invoked at boot time) always inclease their
>>> resources, and become 'fat process.' It causes fork() cost higher.
>UB> Any idea what would be the best for non posix systems ?
>UB> What would scale best on small 'embeded' systems ?
>For embeded systems, there are two cases.
>1) You're using unix-like OS, not unix.
>  Like VxWare or Phoenix, there are several unix-like os which do
>  not support multi-task, but does support multi-thread. In this
>  kind of cases, my recommendation is
>  "Don't use Samba, at least none of current available."
>  This is because Current Samba still have extreame number of
>  memory leak, especially when you know that daemon process will
>  soon exit(). They simply throw cleanups to OS.
>  Fixing this will become extreame works. Sometimes making Yet
>  Another Smaller Samba might be of less work.

I did some work on an embedded SMB server a while ago, and used the
PTHREADS, but any threadding package would do the job.

I a few short weeks (while I was on training course) I managed to implement
quite a bit of what was needed, but lost interest after a while ...

However, I agree. Memory leaks were hard. I ended up with a DEBUG package
unlike the Samba stuff, where I could switch on different levels of debug
for different areas of the code. I have seen an even better DEBUG package
elsewhere ... But that helped track down memory leaks ...

Richard Sharpe, sharpe at
Samba (Team member,, Ethereal (Team member,
Contributing author, SAMS Teach Yourself Samba in 24 Hours
Author, Special Edition, Using Samba

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