Windows 95 Original Passwords

[Chris Tooley]

Ok now I am just having this most horrible experience.  I built a
totally new machine.  It has the original instance of Windows 95 on it
and it just logged in like there was no tomorrow with encrypted = yes. 
I don't know what's different, but I rebuilt the other machine twice
before I tried this and it just wouldn't do it.  Now that it's in
service and I can't pull it back into the office, I can't get any more
machines to do it.  I'm sorry to make a big issue out of it, because of
my problems.

Thanks for the help and I'm sorry I took up your time with a ghost.

Chris

Chris Tooley wrote:
> 
> I can sure give it a shot.  I will have to add though, that I took a
> fresh installation of Win 95 and tried to log in with encrypted = yes on
> the server and it didn't work.  I tried to log in with encrypted = no
> and it worked.  I installed the update, and tried with encrypted = no,
> now it doesn't work.  I tried again with encrypted = yes, and it
> worked.  Now I installed the EnablePlainTextPasswords hack on 95,
> changed the encrypted = no on the server and logged in again, again it
> worked.  Set the DWORD of the hack to zero and changed encrypted = yes
> on the server, works again.  The Virtual Redirector update seems to make
> the encryption work identical to 95B and up.
> 
> I'll send some tcpdumps directly to Richard as anything over 40000 bytes
> gets bumped back to me no matter what I try and since I'm in the process
> of changing jobs, I've got some other responsiblities as well.  Thanks
> for the help.
> 
> Chris
> 
> Richard Sharpe wrote:
> >
> > At 11:51 PM 6/19/00 -0500, you wrote:
> > >Richard Sharpe wrote:
> > >>
> > >> At 11:56 PM 6/19/00 +1000, Chris Tooley wrote:
> > >> >How do I enable encrypted passwords on the older Win 95 machines then?
> > >> >I didn't have to install the PlainText registry hack and when a
> > >> >do that hack with a DWORD of "0" it doesn't seem to make a
> > >> >difference.
> > >>
> > >> You don't have to. If the server supports encrypted passwords,
> > >> the client will use them!
> > >>
> > >> The server specifies that it supports encrypted passwords in
> > >> the response to the NegProt request.
> > >
> > >I am the only one who gets tired of explaining this?  :-)
> > >I now you've answered it a lot as well.
> >
> > Yes, I know, but given that Chris Tooley replied with extra info, it is
> > worth investigating.
> >
> > So, Chris, can you tell us more.
> >
> > I think that the only thing you have to do with the very first Win95
> > release to enable encrypted passwords is to tell Samba to use encrypted
> > passwords.
> >
> > Can you send me a tcpdump trace of it failing?
> >
> > >jerry
> > >
> >
> > Regards
> > -------
> > Richard Sharpe, sharpe at ns.aus.com
> > Samba (Team member, www.samba.org), Ethereal (Team member, www.zing.org)
> > Co-author, SAMS Teach Yourself Samba in 24 Hours
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