SYSKEY, TNG freeze, 2.0.x->TNG merge and other thoughts (fwd)

Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton lkcl at
Tue Feb 8 19:27:48 GMT 2000

<a href="mailto:lkcl at"   > Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton    </a>
<a href=""> Samba and Network Development   </a>
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<a href=""          > Macmillan Technical Publishing  </a>

 ISBN1578701503 DCE/RPC over SMB: Samba and Windows NT Domain Internals

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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 05:31:54 +1100
From: Nicolas Williams <Nicolas.Williams at>
To: Multiple recipients of list SAMBA-NTDOM <samba-ntdom at>
Subject: SYSKEY, TNG freeze, 2.0.x->TNG merge and other thoughts

Gratouitous advice follows.


   I'm now for it as Luke's LDAP/NIS/other name services argument is a
   winning one. The /etc/shadow approach should still be supported and
   used where no such cleartext protocols are in use.

   The question now should be one of scheduling/prioritizing. SYSKEY is
   not needed urgently to allow TNG to make progress, unless Luke Howard
   thinks otherwise (he's doing the SAM-via-LDAP-with-win2k-schema work).

 - TNG code freeze

   Don't do it yet; wait a few more weeks. So much progress is taking
   place that it seems worthwhile to wait a bit longer.

 - 2.0.x->TNG merge

   This should be easy, actually: take smbd code from 2.0.x as is, drop
   all the MSRPC code save for the loopback to MSRPC daemons code.

   That's it.

   TNG seems to be much further ahead on the MSRPC issues, which means
   there's no merge to do from 2.0.x there.

   Same thing with utilities such as rpcclient, though smbclient and
   nmblookup might be best taken from 2.0.x.

I think it's safe to say that TNG is so jam-packed with good ideas that
it will become the next Samba. But then, that's just a view from the
sidelines... others may differ on that...

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