for review password.c and authenticate, was Re: hey

Danny Braniss danny at cs.huji.ac.il
Wed Jun 3 07:03:12 GMT 1998


In message <Pine.LNX.3.96.980602151443.98h-100000 at regent.cb1.com>you write:

}> as far as i can tell, there are few places where the hashed password is used
},
}> 
}> 	net_login_interactive	- uses arc4/oem
}
}no, arc4/oem _decrypts_ the NT / LM hash and is nothing to do with the NT
}/ LM hashes themselves.  once decrypted, you are expected to do a memcmp
}on the hashes against those in the password database.
}
}i _did_ have a function called from net_login_interactive: it is still in
}BRANCH_NTDOM and has not been transferred to the main branch: one is
}necessary.
}

i know, as usual i over simplify, but the result is the same,
you have a string, compare f(str) with some stored string.

}
}> 	net_login_network	- calls smb_password_ok
}> 	session_trust_account   - calls smb_password_check
}
}smb_password_ok() calls smb_password_check().  the entry point function is
}therefore smb_password_check().
}
}there are only two functions that need to be included in the password api:
}
}smb_password_check() and the function that doesn't yet exist in the main
}branch, which should be called from net_login_interactive.
}
}ok, i'll add these two functions to the vector table now: it will make
}things clearer to understand.
}
}
}
}> so, im my oversimplisticview, if i call my own function to check the passwor
}d,
}> there shouldn't be any need for samba to know the nt/lm hash, yes?
}
}um... samba does not "know" at the moment, if you consider
}smb_password_check() to be an entry point in the password database API.
}
}so the answer to your question is yes, and being pedantic i would correct
}you in saying that samba shouldn't need to "know" the nt/lm hash anyway:
}private/smbpasswd does (as an instance of a password database just like
}yours), if that makes any sense.
} 
}> what gets broken with this approach?
}
}which approach?  in this message you haven't described one that i
}[pedantically] perceive: sorry! 

i want to keep the 'stored' hashed password out of samba. this is not
an _iff_ condition. i like to keep the 'secrets' in one place, and not 
distributed among different data bases - samba/FireWall/Tacacs/Kerberos/Nis 
etc etc.
(btw, the host that does the authentication is called 'kots' for 
Keeper-Of-The-Secrets).

}
}> i know that BDC won't work, neither changing password.
}
}you mean taking the clear-text password and generating an NT/LM hash?
yes.
}
}> btw, i almost finished with password/authenticate.
}
}excellent.  send a diff -u -w -b -B to jeremy as well, so he can review
}it too.  and a copy to samba-bugs.
}
included at end of message,
	1) i moved the relevant stuff out of password.c to authenticate.
	2) the smb stuff is not final, pending some chats with luke, (next e-mail 
soon).

}btw we found someone else who wants to add a password database (a
}kerberos-based one).
great, that makes two of us - strength in numbers :-)

	danny

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