Caution Stoopid Newbie

[Mark Haney]

Look let's all stop the BS here.  YOu know the old saying about opinions.
In this case I think everyone is correct to a point.  Samba 2.0.7 _does_
support NT domains, but, IMHO, doesn't work well as an NT PDC.  And when I
say NT Domain, I mean say it to mean any network that uses the NT domain
model regardless of the DC's OS type.

As well, when someone says 'log in' to a machine, as an admin I take that to
mean authenticate yourself as a user on that machine, which is different
from _authenticating_.  It's just a matter of wording in order to clarify
what the user is trying to do.  I 'log in' to my workstation.  But I
_authenticate_ to the NT domain controller in order to allow access to the
network.  Therefore, when I see someone wanting to 'log in', especially with
a *nix box in question, I think telnet.

So now that that's established, let's concentrate more on helping him than
flaming each other.  I stand by what I say, however, I do apologize for the
tone of my earlier emails.  And I will be more than happy off list to argue
the points I made.

-----Original Message-----
From: McEldowney, Michael [mailto:MMcEldowney at deltaregional.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 11:45 AM
To: 'Mark Haney'; Adam Lang; samba-ntdom at samba.org
Subject: RE: Caution Stoopid Newbie




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Haney [mailto:mhaney at info4cars.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 10:28 AM
> To: Adam Lang; samba-ntdom at samba.org
> Subject: RE: Caution Stoopid Newbie
>
>
> > But the point is Samba 2.0.7 CAN do central authentication.
> One Samba
> server
> > that all file servers, email servers, squid servers, etc . use for
> > user/password authentication.
>
>
> By acting as an NT PDC perhaps?  I still stand by my original
> statement
> 2.0.x isn't stable enough to do that.  Believe me, I tried
> for over a month
> one time to do that and never had enough uptime to feel comfortable.

My Samba server has been in the PDC role since it was installed, and
I've had nothing but uptime.  In fact, the last downtime I had was to
upgrade from 2.0.6 to 2.0.7.  Been running well ever since.  I'd say
that is very stable.  Maybe you weren't configuring correctly.

>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: samba-ntdom-admin at lists.samba.org
> [mailto:samba-ntdom-admin at lists.samba.org]On Behalf Of Adam Lang
> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 11:17 AM
> To: Mark Haney; McEldowney, Michael; Jet Set Willy;
> samba-ntdom at samba.org
> Subject: Re: Caution Stoopid Newbie
>
>
> But the point is Samba 2.0.7 CAN do central authentication.
> One Samba server
> that all file servers, email servers, squid servers, etc . use for
> user/password authentication.
>
> <snip>
> > And your statement that samba is not peer-to-peer is very
> obviously wrong,
> > unless you are doing authentication from some central
> mechanism such as
> NIS
> > or an NT domain, you are running a peer-to-peer network.
> YOu can run
> samba
> > outside of an NT doamin and have the client auth to it just
> fine. I do it
> at
> > home.  So get your facts straight before you flame anyone.
>
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