rsync Digest, Vol 107, Issue 24

Sat Nov 26 16:10:00 MST 2011

Hi,

Some explanations regarding cwRsync:

cwRync installers (both client and server) are now available as a paid
download bundle. Installer sources, however, are still available as free
upon contact.

Please keep in mind that installer sources are not enough to build cwRsync
installers: You need to build up a complete Cygwin environment,
compile/copy binaries in the package. It may be time consuming. That's why
paying a reasonable price for the installer itself can be an alternative as
well.

NB! I have notified Rsync website before changes are made.

Best regards
Tev
cwRsync maintainer/developer

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>   1. Re: cwRsync got killed... (Benjamin R. Haskell)
>   2. Re: cwRsync got killed... (Steven Levine)
>   3. [Bug 8416] Please include systemd service file
>      (samba-bugs at samba.org)
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Benjamin R. Haskell" <rsync at benizi.com>
> To: "Joachim Otahal (privat)" <Jou at gmx.net>
> Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 14:29:56 -0500 (EST)
> Subject: Re: cwRsync got killed...
> On Fri, 25 Nov 2011, Joachim Otahal (privat) wrote:
>
>  Last cwrsync was 4.1.0, current is 4.2.0.
>>
>> It was avail on sourceforge.
>>
>> Itefix.no decided "we want money for coding and support" - that itself is
>> not wrong. Though _I_ never needed any rsync help on neither linux and
>> windows (including mixed) scenarios.
>> But they killed their sourceforge downloads, all, including past versions
>> of cwrsync, including source.
>>
>
> That seems pretty antisocial of them.
>
> They have a "Download source" link for 4.2.0 on their site (
> http://www.itefix.no/i2/node/**10650 <http://www.itefix.no/i2/node/10650>), still, which points to:
>
> http://sereds.git.sourceforge.**net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=sereds/**
> sereds;a=tree<http://sereds.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=sereds/sereds;a=tree>
>
> ... though I'm not sure it's what it says it is.
>
>
> They also don't seem to understand the implications of licensing something
> under the GPL.  (That page claims cwRsync is GPL-licensed.) They can't
> prevent the source code from being distributed, if that's the case.  So,
> the worst case without legal action is that one person buys a copy of
> cwRsync, then publishes the source code (which is permissible according to
> the GPL):
>
> http://www.gnu.org/licenses/**quick-guide-gplv3.html<http://www.gnu.org/licenses/quick-guide-gplv3.html>
>
> In a better case, if anyone has the source code already, feel free to
> publish it.  That's how the GPL works.  So does BSD-licensing, actually. If
> you have the source code, you're free to redistribute it (with the
> restriction that the redistribution retains the same licensing terms and
> copyright information).
>
>
>  The 4.2.0 client is still available on www.chip.de, but the server has
>> no alternative DL. We still have the filesize and the MD5 sum of
>> sourceforge.
>>
>> I'd vote for updating the download page http://rsync.samba.org/**
>> download.html <http://rsync.samba.org/download.html>.
>>
>> Apart from that: Anybody got lucky on cwRsyncServer_4.2.0_Installer.**zip
>> 3961867 bytes MD5 c787dfa854775793d1a1b5c3502b57**b5 ?
>>
>
> Sorry, no luck.  I also tried to see whether it still appeared under any
> outdated Sourceforge mirrors, but no dice.
>
> --
> Best,
> Ben
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Steven Levine" <steve53 at earthlink.net>
> To: rsync at lists.samba.org
> Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 15:50:21 -0800
> Subject: Re: cwRsync got killed...
> In <alpine.LNX.2.01.1111251354300.14380 at hp.internal>, on 11/25/11
>   at 02:29 PM, "Benjamin R. Haskell" <rsync at benizi.com> said:
>
> Hi,
>
> >> But they killed their sourceforge downloads, all, including past
> >> versions of cwrsync, including source.
>
> >That seems pretty antisocial of them.
>
> Interesting.  They are allowed to do what they want with the binaries, but
> the sources are another issue.  As I read the GPL, they must continue to
> provide access to the sources for at least three years after the binary
> was last distributed.
>
> In addition, they must provide access to the actual sources used to build
> the binaries.  For example, if itefix modified any of the rsync sources
> used to build the binaries, it's not sufficient to provide a link to the
> rsync sources at samba.org.
>
> >http://sereds.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=sereds/sereds;a=tree
>
> >... though I'm not sure it's what it says it is.
>
> To me, it looks the what they say it is, which is the install component of
> cwRsync.  I don't know enough about Windows installers to say if it is
> complete.
>
> >They can't prevent the source code from being distributed, if that's the
> >case.
>
> Well, they are not really trying to do that.  What they are doing is
> removing access at a site they control for the sources corresponding to
> binaries they distributed in the past.
>
> Perhaps, someone that is interested in cwRsync should contact itefix and
> ask them if there are any source code modifications.
>
> Another option is to contact the FSF and ask them to review the issue.
> This is after all, part of their charter.
>
> Regards,
>
> Steven
>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: samba-bugs at samba.org
> To: rsync-qa at samba.org
> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 04:23:35 +0000
> Subject: [Bug 8416] Please include systemd service file
> https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8416
>
> --- Comment #3 from Cristian Rodríguez <crrodriguez at opensuse.org>
> 2011-11-26 04:23:34 UTC ---
> There is a quirk to be aware of in this systemd unit.
>
> Rsync areturns with non-zero (code 20) exit code when the running service
> is
> stopped, so systemctl stop rsync.service will make the service to enter
> failed
> state and not stopped state.
>
> This is IMHO a bug in rsync when running as daemon. most if not all of
> other
> daemons return 0 exity code on SIGTERM.
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