Alternatives to programmatically calling the rsync binary a lot

Axel Kittenberger axel77 at gmail.com
Thu Oct 16 21:30:44 GMT 2008


Thanks for your comment! But as you can see on lsyncd project base, we
compared it to rdbd (along other solutions) already. rdbd doesn't fit in
many cases, since in this usecase we want a oneway sync only, not a two-way
and rdbd is also a "heavy weight" solution, requireing big changes for
expost solutions. watch+rsync is "leight weight" on the other hand. Also I
for one needed the file ownerships different on the remote server than of
the source server, something else rdbd can't. What I especially like on
lsyncd (watch + rsync) is that it doesn't intefer (as in slow down) local
operations at all.

>From the projects homepage
"""""""""""""""
DRBD operates on block device level. This makes it useful for synchronizing
systems that are under heavy load. Lsyncd on the other hand does not require
you to change block devices and/or mount points, allows you to change
uid/gid of the transferred files, separates the receiver through the one-way
nature of rsync. However when using lsyncd a file change can possibly result
in a full file transfer (at least for binary files) and is therefore
unsuitable for databases. Also a directory rename will result in
transferring the whole directory.
"""""""""""""""

Due to this one-wayness of syncing there is also IMHO nothing "unsecure"
about it. Only forking rsync operations all the time is not optimal.And in
my optimism I assumened rsync and librsync would relate to each other like
curl and libcurl, only to be stumped at reality.


On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Marcelo Leal
<diversos at posix.brte.com.br>wrote:

> The solution needs to be around rsync? I think you should look in some
> kind of "low level" replication, like drbd or something...
> What you have described i think is something very complex, because you
> can have many changes almost at the same time, and many sync process
> starting, or so... i don´t know how is the integration of the "watch
> feature", and the sync daemon, but as you described i really think a
> low level solution would be more safe.
>
>  Leal.
>
> 2008/10/16 Axel Kittenberger <axel77 at gmail.com>:
> > Dear list, I'd like to have your expertise opinion on following issue.
> >
> > Out of a concrete need we developed an application that will rsync any
> > changes on a local directory structure to a remove system the moment they
> > happen using the linux kernel watch feature. This is in our opinion much
> > more elegant compared to invoking rsync every x seconds/minutes from
> cron,
> > or having to use a special filesystem (a FUSEd mirror or even kernel
> > native). The application is called lsyncd (live syncing demon)
> > http://code.google.com/p/lsyncd/
> >
> > For simplicity we just exec()ed the systems installed rsync binary to
> invoke
> > rsync for a directory when a change happened in it. Now some users
> > complained that this strategy involves a lot of forking on a vivid
> directory
> > structure. Also we have not yet figured out a developed way how to handle
> > which error rsync might encounter (what to do on network error, what to
> do
> > on other errors) etc.
> >
> > Now do you think it is feasible to go for another strategy than working
> at
> > hands distance by forking? I looked into librsync, in a childish
> assumption
> > guessing it would be very same thing rsync uses, but a few reads later
> its
> > evident they do not. But the big Beta tag frightens me, also it says its
> not
> > wire compatible with rsync > 2, which does not look so cool. The other
> > alternative would be to directly link with the rsync files (the
> > possibilities of the GNU world), and call /use its according functions
> just
> > like the rysnc main() function would do. What do you think would be
> smartest
> > strategy to go for?
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Axel Kittenberger
> >
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