cygwin rsync windows to windows ACL problem

havoc havoc at havoc.org
Mon Oct 1 17:42:22 GMT 2007 

Well, I'll try installing cygwin and an rsync daemon on one of the XP 
workstations to be backed up later tonight to see if having rsync on both 
ends solves the ACL issue. I just can't do it now as the workstations are in 
use.

On Monday 01 October 2007, Stephen Zemlicka wrote:
> I'm not sure.  If you can run the daemon on the server, you should.  My
> situation doesn't allow me to do that but if yours does, you should.  If
> you initiate the daemon from the client, then I don't believe there's
> anything extra running on the server except for during backups.
>
> _____________________________
> Stephen Zemlicka
> Integrated Computer Technologies
> PH. 608-558-5926
> E-Mail stevezemlicka at gmail.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rsync-bounces+stevezemlicka=gmail.com at lists.samba.org
> [mailto:rsync-bounces+stevezemlicka=gmail.com at lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of
> havoc
> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 12:06 PM
> To: rsync at lists.samba.org
> Subject: Re: cygwin rsync windows to windows ACL problem
>
> Would running an rsync daemon on the client side (using Matt's ACL enabled
> rsync) solve my ACL problem?
>
> On Monday 01 October 2007, havoc wrote:
> > Yes, mapped drive, "kindof", it's a netbios default share, but
> > essentially the same thing.
> > I am trying to avoid any situation that requires special handling on the
> > remote (client workstation) side, like additional software to install and
> > maintain.
> >
> > On Monday 01 October 2007, Stephen Zemlicka wrote:
> > > Yup, that's what I originally intended but I probably wasn't very
> > > clear. So basically you would add
> > >
> > > ROBOCOPY source destination /XO /XN /XC /E /COPY:ATSOU
> > >
> > > to run after the rsync finishes.
> > >
> > > How are you running rsync with no remote daemon running?  Mapped drive?
> > > Why not run the remote daemon, I believe rsync can even initiate the
> > > remote daemon from the client side if you want. (hopefully my
>
> terminology
>
> > > is correct there)
> > >
> > > _____________________________
> > > Stephen Zemlicka
> > > Integrated Computer Technologies
> > > PH. 608-558-5926
> > > E-Mail stevezemlicka at gmail.com
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: rsync-bounces+stevezemlicka=gmail.com at lists.samba.org
> > > [mailto:rsync-bounces+stevezemlicka=gmail.com at lists.samba.org] On
> > > Behalf Of havoc
> > > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 11:28 AM
> > > To: rsync at lists.samba.org
> > > Subject: Re: cygwin rsync windows to windows ACL problem
> > >
> > > Intriguing, you're saying to use rsync to copy/sync the data, the use
> > > robocopy
> > > to only recursively set permissions?  Robocopy can do this without
> > > transferring data?
> > > I haven't finished reading all about it yet, but have started with:
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robocopy
> > >
> > > On Monday 01 October 2007, Stephen Zemlicka wrote:
> > > > I have synced terabytes of data across DSL connections using robocopy
> > > > with no problem.  Robocopy is just as fast as rsync on whole files
> > > > and I find
> > >
> > > it
> > >
> > > > to be even faster on folders with large numbers of small files
> > > > (though I hear the next release of rsync is supposed to speed that
> > > > up).
> > > >
> > > > However, if you must use rsync, you can still use the robocopy that I
> > > > specified earlier.  Rsync would be responsible for all the file
>
> copying
>
> > > and
> > >
> > > > robocopy would be responsible for only the attributes and
> > > > permissions. Since rsync is a *nix utility, I doubt much effort will
> > > > be put into compatibility with windows permissions.
> > > >
> > > > _____________________________
> > > > Stephen Zemlicka
> > > > Integrated Computer Technologies
> > > > PH. 608-558-5926
> > > > E-Mail stevezemlicka at gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: rsync-bounces+stevezemlicka=gmail.com at lists.samba.org
> > > > [mailto:rsync-bounces+stevezemlicka=gmail.com at lists.samba.org] On
> > > > Behalf
> > >
> > > Of
> > >
> > > > havoc
> > > > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 11:00 AM
> > > > To: rsync at lists.samba.org
> > > > Subject: Re: cygwin rsync windows to windows ACL problem
> > > >
> > > > Unfortunately I don't think it will work.
> > > > We have two offices in the same corporate park connected by an
> > > > unreliable radio backhaul, and several terabytes of data to sync
>
> daily,
>
> > > > hence my desire
> > > >
> > > > to get rsync working :(
> > > >
> > > > PS: I will definitely check out robocopy for other uses, thank you :)
> > > >
> > > > On Monday 01 October 2007, Stephen Zemlicka wrote:
> > > > > Robocopy does copy only the new or changed files.  However it does
> > > > > copy
> > > >
> > > > the
> > > >
> > > > > whole files (similar to the -W switch in rsync).  I use robocopy
> > >
> > > whenever
> > >
> > > > I
> > > >
> > > > > already have a secure connection (VPN) or when my backups don't
> > > > > include large (multi GB) database files.  To see if robocopy will
> > > > > work by itself for you, add the -W switch and see if that's
> > > > > acceptable.  It'll take a bit longer for changed files but will be
> > > > > just as fast for new files.
> > > > >
> > > > > _____________________________
> > > > > Stephen Zemlicka
> > > > > Integrated Computer Technologies
> > > > > PH. 608-558-5926
> > > > > E-Mail stevezemlicka at gmail.com
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: rsync-bounces+stevezemlicka=gmail.com at lists.samba.org
> > > > > [mailto:rsync-bounces+stevezemlicka=gmail.com at lists.samba.org] On
> > > > > Behalf
> > > >
> > > > Of
> > > >
> > > > > havoc
> > > > > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 10:50 AM
> > > > > To: rsync at lists.samba.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: cygwin rsync windows to windows ACL problem
> > > > >
> > > > > Does robocopy handle partial transfers, and backups of changed
> > > > > deleted files?
> > > > > My reason for wanting rsync is to maintain a mirror, and accomplish
> > > > > incremental backups via --backup --backup-dir=<blah> with rsync.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Monday 01 October 2007, Stephen Zemlicka wrote:
> > > > > > I have also noticed that permissions aren't always copied under
> > > > > > windows. I've heard you can use robocopy to do it.  I have not
> > > > > > because it hasn't been critical to my operation but supposedly,
>
> you
>
> > > > > > can use something like
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ROBOCOPY source destination /XO /XN /XC /E /COPY:ATSOU
> > > > > >
> > > > > > After the backup script.  This should not copy any files and just
> > > > > > copy the file permissions and attributes.  Let me know if that
> > > > > > helps.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BTW, robocopy is part of the windows 2003 resource kit.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > _____________________________
> > > > > > Stephen Zemlicka
> > > > > > Integrated Computer Technologies
> > > > > > PH. 608-558-5926
> > > > > > E-Mail stevezemlicka at gmail.com
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: rsync-bounces+stevezemlicka=gmail.com at lists.samba.org
> > > > > > [mailto:rsync-bounces+stevezemlicka=gmail.com at lists.samba.org] On
> > > > > > Behalf
> > > > >
> > > > > Of
> > > > >
> > > > > > havoc
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 9:59 AM
> > > > > > To: rsync at lists.samba.org
> > > > > > Subject: cygwin rsync windows to windows ACL problem
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am having problems using rsync on cygwin to properly copy the
> > > > > > ownership of files from windows to windows.
> > > > > > I am running: rsync -avPA //src_addr/some/path /local/dst/path/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Based on:
> > > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/rsync@lists.samba.org/msg18920.html
> > > > > > and:
>
> http://www.nabble.com/Re:-I-need-rsync-+-acl-support-for-windows--t246264
>
> > >7.
> > >
> > > > > >h tml
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ENV: CYGWIN=ntsec tty
> > > > > > I am running this on Windows Server 2003 R2 SP2 (a DC), the SRC
> > > > > > is a Windows XP SP2 domain member.
> > > > > > I have tried patching the cygwin rsync source to enable ACL
> > > > > > support, and had this confirmed by rsync --version
> > > > > > This didn't work so I got rsync-acl-2.6.9.tar.bz2 from:
> > > > > > http://mattmccutchen.net/myrsync/
> > > > > > and configured with --enable-acl-support
> > > > > > This still does not work.  Is what I am trying to do not
> > > > > > possible, or am I just doing something wrong?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for any input.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    - havoc
> > > > >
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> > > > >    - havoc
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> > > >    - havoc
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