[clug] Bryan's behaviour

[Jon Connor]

I am nothing short of amazed by the lack of introspection on display. 
Brad's talk was the first CLUG meeting that I have attended. As an 
outsider, the constant disruptions and heckling was surprising and 
unpleasant - the speaker was clearly uncomfortable. Some high school 
classrooms are better behaved.

Bryan, I have noticed a common trend in every single email to this list 
about your behavior. You seem completely incapable of even acknowledging 
your own actions. Every reply has been some form of "Everyone else needs 
to do work to accommodate me!". I'm surprised by the volume of emails 
you write, since you seem to put no effort in to doing anything else to 
make your (and everyone else's) time at CLUG better. Never, as far as I 
can see, have you apologized for anything. Is this really acceptable 
behavior?

As Alastair eloquently put in his email, it is not the group's 
responsibility to accommodate you. If you didn't have what seems to be a 
habit of annoying and disrupting others, perhaps they would be more 
willing to put in the effort. Whatever the case, it should be quite 
clear that your actions aren't winning you any friends. I would 
seriously suggest some introspection and consideration of how your 
actions affect others.


-Jon


On 7/3/19 4:38 PM, Bryan Kilgallin via linux wrote:
> Alastair wrote:
>
>> As you were already told at MHV, this is an informal community, not a
>> workplace, and you have no right to make demands of people who are
>> volunteering their time to share their knowledge with the rest of the
>> community.
>
> Adults arrive bearing various ailments. Some suffer deafness. Another 
> has diabetes.
>
>> Your outrageous demands and disrespectful behaviour are as toxic and
>> unwanted here as they were at MHV, and since you have shown no sign of
>> remorse over the disrespectful treatment you have shown to Brad, I do
>> not see why anyone has incentive to even try to make any accommodations
>> for you.
>
> From popular appeal, I have amended my drawing page thus.
>
> {On 27 June, I brought a laptop and graphics tablet to a computer 
> club. Using MyPaint to draw a software engineer.}
>
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~kilgallin/art/drawing/index.html
>
>> Stop hiding behind your disability and take responsibility for your
>> actions.
>
> Mental illnesses have behavioural symptoms!
>
>> This is a technical group, and as such, a lot of us are
>> somewhere on the spectrum.
>
> Trainers need consider adult learners' needs.
>
>> You're not special, and being on the
>> spectrum is not an excuse for being disrespectful.
>
> I've been tested as in the top 1% for verbal and visual abilities. And 
> I suffer neuro and psych problems shared by 1% of folk. One size fits 
> all doesn't work for minorities.
>
>> This community does not exist for your exclusive benefit, and we should
>> not have to tolerate the behaviour you have shown.
>
> Your missus has talked on accommodating Aspies!
>
>> Many people in this community are already blocking mail from you, and
>> are avoiding attending meetings due to the toxic environment you have
>> created.
>
> I do not control what you do.
>
> Conrad said he avoids CLUG talks, being too techno for him!
>
>> Given that we have covered this many times at MHV, and you have clearly
>> not made any attempt to treat other people or community groups with the
>> respect they deserve, I suggest that you should no longer be permitted
>> to post to the group, or attend meetings, until such time as you can
>> demonstrate that you can be a productive member of the community.
>
> Yesterday is a memory. And tomorrow is a dream.