[clug] Debian 9 "Stretch" released, June 17th, 2017

Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.clug at gmail.com
Mon Jun 19 03:03:28 UTC 2017

On 19/06/17 12:03, Andrew Donnellan via linux wrote:
> On 19 June 2017 at 10:54, Scott Ferguson via linux
> <linux at lists.samba.org> wrote:
>> Don't worry too much - I upgraded a laptop to Stretch in-place last year
>> without any major issues other than the changes that PHP7 brought
>> (which required a lot of trawling through /var/log/apache2/error.log and
>> editing PHP files), and getting Gammaray to work. Though I've yet to
>> become comfortable with "routel" instead of "route", and "enp1s0"
>> instead of "eth0" - a minor niggle is that "dmesg" now requires the user
>> to run as root(?!).
>> cat /usr/local/bin/dmsg
>> #!/bin/bash
>> su -c "dmesg | grep -iA2 'warn\|fail\|error\|alert\|segfault'"
>> Discover (KDE), Shashlik, and KDEConnect are awesome, other changes are
>> not so obvious. The only real issue is KOrganizer which sometimes fails
>> to open Calendars without a restart (but then the KDE PIM has never
>> completely worked to my satisfaction - *cough*KMail sux*cough*).
>> With the exception of Firefox everything seems to run quicker and
>> lighter (and PaleMoon is much quicker than Firefox anyway).
> I run Sid at home, I just feel like my employer would rather me not
> break my workstation


For the benefit for non-Debian initiates -
Debian Unstable is always called "Sid". Debian releases are named after
characters in the animated movie "Toy Story". "Sid" is the child
next-door who is forever breaking toys...

Every couple of years "Sid" features are frozen and it become the
"Testing"*1 until all major bugs are gone - then it becomes "Stable"*2.

So "Stable" has had years of testing before release - "Unstable", not so
much. (Some recent software/versions are "backported" to "Stable" in a
separate "Stable Backports" repository).

*1 and given the name of a character from "Toy Story". Dunno what
happens after "Buster" and "Bullseye" - does anyone?
*2(and the previous "Stable" becomes "Old Stable" - there is also
"Experimental" which is candidates for "Unstable").

> on a regular basis so I choose to run stable on
> my work machines, but my colleagues who run Arch would disagree
> there...

(Nice example of "enlightened self-interest"!)

Stable == less maintenance, more time available for work.
Unstable for new features at the cost of constant updates and (slightly)
less time available for work due to updates and "glitch time".

My limited experience with Arch/Slack/Gentoo was that they seemed to
provide a little less uncomfortable seat on the "bleeding edge" than
Debian Unstable as a work OS.

Kind regards

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