[clug] The biggest mass surveillance scheme in Australian history

[Bob Edwards]

On 02/03/15 06:24, Adrian Blake wrote:
> It is likely that organisation's that offer free wifi, eg shopping centres,
> local councils etc may be exempt . They have no reason to keep records,
> thus if you wish to undertake some suspicious activity there several
> options where your you will go unnoticed.
>
> Agree? If so then government ,   fail.
>
> Adrian

(apologies Adrian, I just realised I only sent this to you and not the
list... try again...)

Free wifi in shopping centres, libraries etc. where there are,
generally, lots of CCTV cameras...

On an unrelated topic, is it "honeypot", "honey pot" or "honey-pot"?

Bob Edwards.

> On 01/03/2015 6:45 PM, "Bryan Kilgallin" <bryan at netspeed.com.au> wrote:
>
>> Scott:
>>
>>   As a former complex data tester for Telstra - I can assure you that has
>>> always only required them to ring or email quoting a warrant number to
>>> organise. If they can't get a warrant they shouldn't be able to get the
>>> data (period).
>>>
>>
>> I have read American discussion of warrantless wiretapping.
>>
>>   One way or another the tax-payer seems destined to foot the bill.
>>>
>>
>> The blue side of government claims to reduce taxation of the rich!
>>
>>   As a tax payer I'm more than happy to pay for target police
>>> investigations - but not for dragnets.
>>>
>>
>> This is a dragnet--what are you going to do about it?
>>
>>   I only know first hand of Telstra/BigPond's previous practises - that
>>> data is kept beyond billing periods for market analysis purposes.
>>>
>>
>> Commercial surveillance.
>>
>>   But I'd agree from a business management perspective it 'should' be an
>>> ROI equation - if it's not profitable for business to do so, then they
>>> should be able to bill investigators (and the government *should* stump up
>>> the additional funding for police).
>>>
>>
>> Neurotypicals are irrational!
>>
>>   And it does seem relevant that 'some' ISPs 'may' turn a blind eye to the
>>> uses of the services when it is profitable (piracy).
>>>
>>
>> Half of Web content consumption is pornography!
>>
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