[clug] Video editing (editing out advertising from recorded television)
Scott Ferguson
scott.ferguson.clug at gmail.com
Mon Apr 13 17:05:06 MDT 2015
Hi Norm
On 14/04/15 07:23, Norm Bakker wrote:
> I've been using ProjectX to do this
This?? :)
Sorry, but it's unclear to me what you mean (I can be a bit thick).
Editing out ads? Ad detection? Logo removal?
> for some time. It is written in Java
> and is easily installed. Just download the jar from the website and use as
> is.
> Norm Bakker
I've added it to my list of solutions to try.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/project-x/
I do have a virtual machine dedicated to java apps which might be the
place to test ProjectX - but I'm primarily interested in things I can
reliably deploy on a stable work box (from which java is banned).
Seems to be a number of open bug reports for Project X... do you find
any of those a problem?
<snipped>
>> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 11:12:59 +1000
>> From: Brenton Ross <rossb at fwi.net.au>
>> To: linux at lists.samba.org
>> Subject: Re: [clug] linux Digest, Vol 148, Issue 13
>> Message-ID: <1428887579.2693.265.camel at acer.localdomain>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>
>> Scott,
>>
>> my reaction would be to use mplayer to set the start and end points of
>> the edits into an "edl" list. See the mplayer docs for details.
>> Then I would use ffmpeg to perform the deletes.
>> (In practice I use my PVR to do this step, so I have not actually tried
>> the above.)
>>
>> What I am now looking for is something to mask the station identifier
>> blobs that are scattered over the running movies.
>>
>> Brenton
>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 10:43:12 +1000
>>> From: Scott Ferguson <scott.ferguson.clug at gmail.com>
>>> To: CLUG List <linux at lists.samba.org>
>>> Subject: [clug] RTL2832U, SDR, Avidemux and editing out advertising
>>> from recorded television
>>> Message-ID: <5529BFA0.7090900 at gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>>
>>> I recently purchased a cheap RTL2832U chipset TV stick for use as a SDR
>>> and GPS.
>>> Digital Energy Mini Digital TV Stick, BlazeVide HDTV Player (RTL2838
>>> DVB-T+DAB+FM)
>>> It took a little fiddling to get it fully working on Wheezy with
>>> backports, but I did take notes if anyone needs help getting one working.
>>>
>>> As a TV recorder it works well and I'm now looking at way to remove ads
>>> from the recordings. I've used Avidemux in the past but it's now a
>>> challenge to use on a stable box.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions on how to do this?
>>> I don't really want to dedicate a box to it, but would consider chroot
>>> or VirtualBox solutions. I also have a Crossover Office license if WINE
>>> is useful.
>>>
>>> I've not had much experience with MythTV - and I'm not much of a TV
>>> watcher anyway so I'm not particularly interested in setting one up (I'm
>>> pretty happy with XBMC). But I've heard MythTV has the ability to remove
>>> ads from recordings... anyone used that facility?
>>>
>>> Any suggestions and experiences in removing ads from recorded TV are
>>> appreciated (as long as they work on Linux).
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 11:46:31 +1000
>> From: John Mills <johnmi at effect.net.au>
>> To: linux at lists.samba.org
>> Subject: Re: [clug] linux Digest, Vol 148, Issue 13
>> Message-ID: <20150413014631.GB25141 at nimbus>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 11:12:59AM +1000, Brenton Ross wrote:
>>> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 11:12:59 +1000
>>> From: Brenton Ross <rossb at fwi.net.au>
>>> Subject: Re: [clug] linux Digest, Vol 148, Issue 13
>>> To: linux at lists.samba.org
>>> X-Mailer: Evolution 3.4.4 (3.4.4-2.fc17)
>>>
>>> Scott,
>>>
>>> my reaction would be to use mplayer to set the start and end points of
>>> the edits into an "edl" list. See the mplayer docs for details.
>>> Then I would use ffmpeg to perform the deletes.
>>> (In practice I use my PVR to do this step, so I have not actually tried
>>> the above.)
>>>
>>> What I am now looking for is something to mask the station identifier
>>> blobs that are scattered over the running movies.
>>>
>>> Brenton
>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 10:43:12 +1000
>>>> From: Scott Ferguson <scott.ferguson.clug at gmail.com>
>>>> To: CLUG List <linux at lists.samba.org>
>>>> Subject: [clug] RTL2832U, SDR, Avidemux and editing out advertising
>>>> from recorded television
>>>> Message-ID: <5529BFA0.7090900 at gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>>>
>>>> I recently purchased a cheap RTL2832U chipset TV stick for use as a SDR
>>>> and GPS.
>>>> Digital Energy Mini Digital TV Stick, BlazeVide HDTV Player (RTL2838
>>>> DVB-T+DAB+FM)
>>>> It took a little fiddling to get it fully working on Wheezy with
>>>> backports, but I did take notes if anyone needs help getting one
>> working.
>>>>
>>>> As a TV recorder it works well and I'm now looking at way to remove ads
>>>> from the recordings. I've used Avidemux in the past but it's now a
>>>> challenge to use on a stable box.
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions on how to do this?
>>>> I don't really want to dedicate a box to it, but would consider chroot
>>>> or VirtualBox solutions. I also have a Crossover Office license if WINE
>>>> is useful.
>>>>
>>>> I've not had much experience with MythTV - and I'm not much of a TV
>>>> watcher anyway so I'm not particularly interested in setting one up
>> (I'm
>>>> pretty happy with XBMC). But I've heard MythTV has the ability to
>> remove
>>>> ads from recordings... anyone used that facility?
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions and experiences in removing ads from recorded TV are
>>>> appreciated (as long as they work on Linux).
>>
>> I found 'dvbcut' was good for manually editing .ts files.
>> dvbcut.sourceforge.net
>>
>> John Mills
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 15:57:12 +1000
>> From: Scott Ferguson <scott.ferguson.clug at gmail.com>
>> To: CLUG List <linux at lists.samba.org>
>> Subject: Re: [clug] RTL2832U, SDR, Avidemux and editing out
>> advertising from recorded television
>> Message-ID: <552B5AB8.5020305 at gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>
>> On 12/04/15 13:59, Stephen Hocking wrote:
>>> Hi Scott,
>>>
>>> I've been running MythTV since about 2003/4, and the automatic
>>> commercial detection is a bit hit & miss, or was the last time I tried
>>> it a few years ago. It does have a good video editor, which together
>>> with lossless transcoding, gives good results. I'm running my backend in
>>> a VM, with it talking to a couple of HDHomeruns over the net. Most of
>>> the hypervisors will allow PCI & USB passthrough to VMs, so I think
>>> you'd be OK.
>>
>>
>> Thanks Stephen - I'd read the docs on MythTV commercial detection
>> parameters and was dubious about it's reliability.
>>
>> I'm sure someone has looked at using sound compression levels to detect
>> ads - but couldn't quickly find any references. I know the Japanese
>> video recorders reliably remove ads on the basis of shows/movies having
>> multiple languages and ads having none - but couldn't find any
>> references to software projects that do the same.
>>
>> I'll have a look at what MythTV uses for video editing, I'd prefer to
>> use a frame based editor to avoid those fade transition relics. Avidemux
>> is great for simple frame based edits - and has the added advantage that
>> it also works natively with most video formats which save a lot of time
>> transcoding.
>>
>> I found Comskip which seems fairly useful for marking ads, which I could
>> later feed the output of into ffmpeg (as another poster suggested) to
>> autochop the ads out.
>>
>> Comskip requires WINE:-
>> http://www.kaashoek.com/comskip/
>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Scott Ferguson
>>> <scott.ferguson.clug at gmail.com <mailto:scott.ferguson.clug at gmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I recently purchased a cheap RTL2832U chipset TV stick for use as a
>> SDR
>>> and GPS.
>>> Digital Energy Mini Digital TV Stick, BlazeVide HDTV Player (RTL2838
>>> DVB-T+DAB+FM)
>>> It took a little fiddling to get it fully working on Wheezy with
>>> backports, but I did take notes if anyone needs help getting one
>>> working.
>>>
>>> As a TV recorder it works well and I'm now looking at way to remove
>> ads
>>> from the recordings. I've used Avidemux in the past but it's now a
>>> challenge to use on a stable box.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions on how to do this?
>>> I don't really want to dedicate a box to it, but would consider
>> chroot
>>> or VirtualBox solutions. I also have a Crossover Office license if
>> WINE
>>> is useful.
>>>
>>> I've not had much experience with MythTV - and I'm not much of a TV
>>> watcher anyway so I'm not particularly interested in setting one up
>> (I'm
>>> pretty happy with XBMC). But I've heard MythTV has the ability to
>> remove
>>> ads from recordings... anyone used that facility?
>>>
>>> Any suggestions and experiences in removing ads from recorded TV are
>>> appreciated (as long as they work on Linux).
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>> --
>>> linux mailing list
>>> linux at lists.samba.org <mailto:linux at lists.samba.org>
>>> https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/linux
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 16:05:03 +1000
>> From: Scott Ferguson <scott.ferguson.clug at gmail.com>
>> To: CLUG List <linux at lists.samba.org>
>> Subject: Re: [clug] linux Digest, Vol 148, Issue 13
>> Message-ID: <552B5C8F.2070503 at gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>
>> On 13/04/15 11:12, Brenton Ross wrote:
>>> Scott,
>>>
>>> my reaction would be to use mplayer to set the start and end points of
>>> the edits into an "edl" list. See the mplayer docs for details.
>>> Then I would use ffmpeg to perform the deletes.
>>
>>
>> Thanks Brenton
>>
>>> (In practice I use my PVR to do this step, so I have not actually tried
>>> the above.)
>>>
>>> What I am now looking for is something to mask the station identifier
>>> blobs that are scattered over the running movies.
>>
>>
>> Three methods I've found. The simplest one seems to be to use VirtualDub,
>> http://neuron2.net/delogo132/delogo.html
>> http://compression.ru/video/logo_removal/index_en.html
>>
>> you could also attempt to do it manually with mplayer's delogo or remove
>> logo, but it's fiddly.
>> delogo[=x:y:w:h:t]
>> remove-logo=/path/to/logo_bitmap_file_name.pgm
>>
>>
>> The most effective way is probably too much of an investment for most -
>> use a custom designed FPGA
>>
>> http://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects/television-logo-killer/msg434376/?PHPSESSID=4057d76234d87655056437d1d800056f#msg434376
>>
>> Note that the person behind that is not too far away.
>>
>>>
>>> Brenton
>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 10:43:12 +1000
>>>> From: Scott Ferguson <scott.ferguson.clug at gmail.com>
>>>> To: CLUG List <linux at lists.samba.org>
>>>> Subject: [clug] RTL2832U, SDR, Avidemux and editing out advertising
>>>> from recorded television
>>>> Message-ID: <5529BFA0.7090900 at gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>>>
>>>> I recently purchased a cheap RTL2832U chipset TV stick for use as a SDR
>>>> and GPS.
>>>> Digital Energy Mini Digital TV Stick, BlazeVide HDTV Player (RTL2838
>>>> DVB-T+DAB+FM)
>>>> It took a little fiddling to get it fully working on Wheezy with
>>>> backports, but I did take notes if anyone needs help getting one
>> working.
>>>>
>>>> As a TV recorder it works well and I'm now looking at way to remove ads
>>>> from the recordings. I've used Avidemux in the past but it's now a
>>>> challenge to use on a stable box.
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions on how to do this?
>>>> I don't really want to dedicate a box to it, but would consider chroot
>>>> or VirtualBox solutions. I also have a Crossover Office license if WINE
>>>> is useful.
>>>>
>>>> I've not had much experience with MythTV - and I'm not much of a TV
>>>> watcher anyway so I'm not particularly interested in setting one up (I'm
>>>> pretty happy with XBMC). But I've heard MythTV has the ability to remove
>>>> ads from recordings... anyone used that facility?
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions and experiences in removing ads from recorded TV are
>>>> appreciated (as long as they work on Linux).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 16:07:11 +1000
>> From: Scott Ferguson <scott.ferguson.clug at gmail.com>
>> To: CLUG List <linux at lists.samba.org>
>> Subject: Re: [clug] linux Digest, Vol 148, Issue 13
>> Message-ID: <552B5D0F.4020309 at gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>
>> On 13/04/15 11:46, John Mills wrote:
>>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 11:12:59AM +1000, Brenton Ross wrote:
>>>> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 11:12:59 +1000
>>>> From: Brenton Ross <rossb at fwi.net.au>
>>>> Subject: Re: [clug] linux Digest, Vol 148, Issue 13
>>>> To: linux at lists.samba.org
>>>> X-Mailer: Evolution 3.4.4 (3.4.4-2.fc17)
>>>>
>> <snipped>
>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 10:43:12 +1000
>>>>> From: Scott Ferguson <scott.ferguson.clug at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: CLUG List <linux at lists.samba.org>
>>>>> Subject: [clug] RTL2832U, SDR, Avidemux and editing out advertising
>>>>> from recorded television
>>>>> Message-ID: <5529BFA0.7090900 at gmail.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>>>>
>>>>> I recently purchased a cheap RTL2832U chipset TV stick for use as a SDR
>>>>> and GPS.
>>>>> Digital Energy Mini Digital TV Stick, BlazeVide HDTV Player (RTL2838
>>>>> DVB-T+DAB+FM)
>>>>> It took a little fiddling to get it fully working on Wheezy with
>>>>> backports, but I did take notes if anyone needs help getting one
>> working.
>>>>>
>>>>> As a TV recorder it works well and I'm now looking at way to remove ads
>>>>> from the recordings. I've used Avidemux in the past but it's now a
>>>>> challenge to use on a stable box.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions on how to do this?
>>>>> I don't really want to dedicate a box to it, but would consider chroot
>>>>> or VirtualBox solutions. I also have a Crossover Office license if WINE
>>>>> is useful.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've not had much experience with MythTV - and I'm not much of a TV
>>>>> watcher anyway so I'm not particularly interested in setting one up
>> (I'm
>>>>> pretty happy with XBMC). But I've heard MythTV has the ability to
>> remove
>>>>> ads from recordings... anyone used that facility?
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions and experiences in removing ads from recorded TV are
>>>>> appreciated (as long as they work on Linux).
>>>
>>> I found 'dvbcut' was good for manually editing .ts files.
>>> dvbcut.sourceforge.net
>>>
>>> John Mills
>>>
>>
>> Thanks John - I'll take a look at it.
>>
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>>
Kind regards
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