[clug] Why do we do what we do in Linux? [was Re: Text editor]
Bryan Kilgallin
bryan at netspeed.com.au
Thu Oct 30 01:38:04 MDT 2014
Hi Scott:
> That's more an example of how a proficiency in one field (law) doesn't
> automatically translate into a proficiency in another (IT).
>> We're supposed to engage in lifelong learning!
> While I agree, your response doesn't seem to directly relate to what you
> are responding to. (puzzled)
I have certified learning in such as:
* geology;
* geophysics;
* business administration;
* tertiary education; and
* public administration.
So I mean to say that it is not necessary to be constrained to one
initial academic discipline. Rather, it is possible to develop
understanding in several.
> By all means snip out irrelevant material - but please try not to remove
> the context.
I had been told to stop top-quoting (leaving an entire historical
context of discussion).
>>> You limit your choices by choosing from a category
>>> e.g. shells - then make you decision on the basis of "fit for purpose" -
>>> only you can determine what weights to apply to that decision matrix.
>> Yes, I chose the fish shell.
> I'll take that as an agreement (to the now, trimmed out of context, point).
I don't know how to decide on a category of software, and then choose to
replace the distribution's standard with something else. Whereas I have
read of Arch's virtue of being thin, and so allowing for full
customisation. However, I feel too ignorant to attempt such.
>>> In your case one of the "fit for purpose" definitions you 'might' employ
>>> could be "how much support/guidance can I get" (which may rule out
>>> blackbox and xnest).
>> Yeah--otherwise I spend forever with shelved, half-built projects!
> The pejorative is presumably the result of a misunderstanding.
At different clubs, I have run into emotive negative reactions! Thereby
lacking peer support, I have felt disinclined to continue with projects
there that were well under way.
> Neither
> of those projects are "half-built.
No, I meant that lacking peer support, my own projects have languished!
>> I understand that a great many published programs each consist of
>> someone's pet project!
> Starting with the kernel.
I do not have sufficient knowledge of this topic.
> Marketing (creating a desire) and Sales (commercial transaction) are
> distinct from Promotion (creating awareness).
Marketing is a subject that I have taught. It is academically said to
consist of four `Ps':
* product;
* place;
* price; and
* promotion.
> But we digress... far from the original subject and even one of the
> subsequent tangents of "winning a desktop war".
I am confused by the unstated requirements of e-mail list etiquette.
>> Although supposedly "free"--I have found that trying to compute the
>> Linux way entails endless nights and a desk covered in scribbles on
>> Post-it notes!
> I suspect you stretch "free" too far when applying it to "free of
> effort". Don't you think?
Cost includes opportunity cost. I endeavoured upon Linux systems partly
to avoid cash expenditure. My health would be better if I spent evenings
in a gym, rather than sitting staring at a screen!
>>> A *commercial* point of view no doubt (and that person would hardly
>>> propose their job was meaningless). Did your "user analyst" "get" Linux,
>>> or were they distracted by market imperatives?
>> She had absolutely no idea how her agency's network operated!
> <gently>
> That wasn't my question.
> </gently>
I had asked the lady what operating system her department's servers
used. Her response was "Uh?".
>>>> Adults learn based on comparison with their vast prior experience.
>>> All humans do (abstraction and leverage).
>> By analogy.
> I'm not sure what to make of your constant rephrasing.
One of the disciplines of my formal study, was adult learning. So (in a
Linux context) for the analogy comparing operating systems with power
drills.
>>> Your printer doesn't need to do "landscape" - the print software on
>>> linux is perfectly capable of turning the print 90 degrees before
>>> sending to the printer (Orientation).
>> The Printing application communes with my Brother HL3150CDN LED printer.
>> But I have been unable to get landscape orientation to work. Attempting
>> to print landscape--yields right-truncated portrait output!
> That's an issue that deserves a new post with an appropriate subject
> line to attract useful information and make the results accessible to
> others.
I have attempted courtesy by answering an e-mail response in full in one go.
> This thread has already veered off into too many tangents, which while
> interesting, would be more productive (to the many) if they were
> separate subjects.
I have occasionally retitled a response to someone. Though in another
club I had been complained-to for not maintaining thread-consistency!
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