[clug] Text editor

Bryan Kilgallin bryan at netspeed.com.au
Sun Oct 26 05:44:43 MDT 2014

I networked my OpenMoko FreeRunner phone to my desktop computer. 
Following is the output of ls in the phone's bin directory. And vi is 

addgroup           cp                 false l2test             
mountpoint         rctest             tar
adduser            cpio               fgrep ln                 
mv                 rfcomm             tinylogin
ash                date               grep login              
netstat            rm                 touch
bash               dd                 gunzip ls                 
pand               rmdir              true
bashbug            delgroup           gzip lsmod              
passkey-agent      run-parts          umount
busybox            deluser            hcitool lsmod.26           
pidof              sdptool umount.util-linux
cat                df                 hidd mkdir              
pidof.sysvinit     sed                uname
chattr             dmesg              hostname mknod              
ping               sh                 usleep
chgrp              dumpkmap           ip mktemp             
ping6              sleep              vi
chmod              dund               kill more               
ps                 stty               watch
chown              echo               kill.procps mount              
ps.procps          su                 zcat
ciptool            egrep              l2ping mount.util-linux   
pwd                sync

On 26/10/14 09:59, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> On 26/10/14 10:24, Jason Ozolins wrote:
>> On 26/10/14 8:12 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>>> On 25/10/14 23:56, Andrew Janke wrote:
>>>>> Is it an exercise in industrial
>>>>> archaeology, like learning to make cast-iron railway lines?
>>> A tortured analogy? :)
>>> AFAIK cast-iron railway lines haven't been improved on....
>> erm, they've been made with hot rolled steel for quite a while:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Track_(rail_transport)#Rail
> :)
> I stand corrected. A thoughtless mistake given that my first anvil is a
> short length of rolled steel train track :\
> It's remains a tortured analogy.
> That someone learning vi, complains about vi.... is difficult to find a
> rational explanation for.
>> I mostly use vim because I got used to vi as the lowest common
>> denominator across the Solaris, Linux and embedded Linux boxes I was
>> administering. This is for viewing files (it's fun when your
>> minimalistic Linux terminal server lacks "less"), scripting, and
>> configuration file tweaking.  Less' regex support also seems a bit
>> lacking when I'm searching for patterns with fiddly characters.
>> If I were writing a thesis, or hacking large-scale software, I'd use an
>> IDE or go to the trouble of customising Emacs to the point where it
>> doesn't give me the irrits, but that would done in one environment I
>> care enough about to do interior decoration, as opposed to machines I
>> just administer.
>> In a perfect world, you're doing all the editing on dev/test machines
> If only to reduce the amount of time it takes to effect changes to a
> live environment.
> Alas, the world if far from perfect - I've come across boxes without
> even nano, but fortunately I've not come across one without vi.
>> and incorporating those changes into an infrastructure/config management
>> system like Puppet or Chef, but when you have to firefight on some
>> random box, or even prototype your changes on development machines,
>> vi/vim comes in handy.
>> -Jason
> Kind regards


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