[clug] Off topic: recommendations for a reliable wireless router?

Ben Davies bdcrux at gmail.com
Sun May 26 17:46:58 MDT 2013

Hi all,

Thanks for all the suggestions, alternate firmware etc. There is a
fair bit of info there to go from :-)



On 25 May 2013 12:49, Hal Ashburner <hal at ashburner.info> wrote:
> All brilliant info. Thanks Scott!
> The TL-WR703N looks pretty great! /me fights the urge to order more routers
> ;-)
> Scratch dd-wrt from the list of firmwares one might like to try.
> On 25 May 2013 11:06, Scott Ferguson <scott.ferguson.clug at gmail.com> wrote:
>> TP-Link are about the best value, bang for buck. Possibly the TL-WR703N,
>> which will do what you've specified and more (USB, Wireless, Bluetooth,
>> support for 3G USB Modems). Add a cheap USB2.0 hub, a small USB Flash
>> key, and you can build most anything. Lot's of well documented hardware
>> hacks for it. Under $30 shipped from China as a single unit.
>> Not supported by DebianWRT last time I checked, but well supported by
>> OpenWRT.
>> DDW-WRT is, um, somewhat contentious (and almost identical in pedigree,
>> behaviour, and leg action to a dog called Sveasoft). Some to the claims
>> which appear to be substantiated:-
>> DDWRT is *not* Open Source - despite the claims of "Brain Slayer (James
>> Ewing/Sebastian Gottschall)" it is based on Open Source kernel work and
>> breaches the license of the original developers. DD-WRT is built on
>> Sveasoft, which was built on OpenWRT.
>> DD-WRT (Sebastian) then stole (forked in breach of license) from the
>> Sveasoft Alchemy code (the web interface) - given that DDWRT claimed to
>> be GPL code, that would make those changes Open Source as well - but not
>> according to Sebastian (see
>> http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Development where he claims his
>> "branding rights" exceed the rights of the people whose code he stole).
>> DD-WRT do *not* make the source code to their GPL project fully
>> available one day (you know, with comments and such).
>> Broadcom, Microsoft and other license holders found code in their
>> repository (since removed in one of BrainSlayers great purges)
>> eg.
>> http://svn.dd-wrt.com:8000/dd-wrt/browser/src/shared/nvram/nvram_ro.c
>> now deleted from the repository included this:-
>> "This is UNPUBLISHED PROPRIETARY SOURCE CODE of Broadcom Corporation;
>> the contents of this file may not be disclosed to third parties, copied
>> or duplicated in any form, in whole or in part, without the prior
>> written permission of Broadcom Corporation."
>> The standard DD-WRT license:-
>>     We grant the customer the simple, not sole and only in accordance
>> with Item 10 transferable, valuable right to use the programme in the
>> scope of and in conjunction with the associated hardware.
>>     The user is only authorized to reproduce insofar as this is
>> necessary for conventionary use. He is permitted to create a backup
>> copy. Use of the product exceeding own personal use is forbidden, in
>> particular the copying of the product onto further storage mediums or
>> the duplication of any kind for external use.
>>     Reverse engineering, decompiling and disassembly of the software are
>> not permitted beyond the tight limitations of the Copyright Act.
>> Which is a rather liberal GPL license compared to their "special" GPL
>> licensed product:-
>> http://www.dd-wrt.com/shop/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=31
>> Kind regards
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