[clug] linux Digest, Vol 118, Issue 2
Kim Holburn
kim.holburn at gmail.com
Tue Oct 2 16:22:17 MDT 2012
If your OS is ubuntu then when it boots up there is a screen just before it starts ubuntu with a list of operating system and kernel choices (the grub screen). There's probably a special key to get to that screen if it doesn't show but I don't know what it would be. When you get to the grub screen you can choose memtest, it's usually the third from the top.
It might be worth booting into the BIOS and checking that the USB is not turned off and that the CD drive is visible to the BIOS. The BIOS is nothing to do with the operating system so any computer person worth their salt should be able to help you with it.
You could try booting from a CD. If it's the operating system that's at fault then the CD drive should work before the operating system loads. You should be able to boot from the CD. You might have to get into the BIOS to make it boot from the CD. If you can boot from a recent ubuntu CD you can see if the hardware works OK with the newer OS.
On 2012/Oct/02, at 8:46 PM, Karen Yahoo wrote:
>
> I worked for hrs on the laptop pulling it apart and I got to the fan this time but it's still not working.
> When I said files open, I can see pictures & see music playing playing but there's no sound. There's no sound icon.. :(
> A friend said her dad us retired and uses Linux so I might pass it on to him.
> Worse case I have no buy a new laptop and hopefully save the hard drive. Hopefully!
> Thanks
> I'll keep you posted
>
> Karen
> :)
>
>
>
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>> 1. Linux Conf 2013 Early Bird registrations are open (Robert Edwards)
>> 2. Re: linux Digest, Vol 118, Issue 1 (Karen Yahoo)
>> 3. Re: Linux help needed please (Lana Brindley)
>> 4. Re: Linux help needed please (Kim Holburn)
>> 5. Re: Linux Conf 2013 Early Bird registrations are open
>> (Michael Still)
>> 6. LCA2013 Earlybird Regos Now Open! (Michael Still)
>> 7. Contract position available (Lynette Zweck)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 08:31:58 +1000
>> From: Robert Edwards <bob at cs.anu.edu.au>
>> To: CLUG List <linux at lists.samba.org>
>> Subject: [clug] Linux Conf 2013 Early Bird registrations are open
>> Message-ID: <506A19DE.70209 at cs.anu.edu.au>
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>> (reposting from Makers list - thanks Alastair!...)
>>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> Early Bird registrations for Linux Conf 2013 (here in Canberra) is now open.
>> http://linux.conf.au/register/prices
>>
>> It's not just about Linux, but more the open source movement. You can check
>> out the programme here:
>> http://linux.conf.au/programme/schedule
>>
>> Pricing is $650 for professionals, $260 for hobbyists and $99 for students.
>>
>> (interesting that this announcement went out on Makers before CLUG...).
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:10:02 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Karen Yahoo <kazzaajamm at yahoo.com.au>
>> To: linux at lists.samba.org
>> Subject: Re: [clug] linux Digest, Vol 118, Issue 1
>> Message-ID:
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>>
>> Thank you for replying..
>> I'm using a Compaq Presario CQ40
>> I think I might try opening it up and blowing it out. When I tried to do it before I couldn't get to the fan.
>> The keys are still working fine, I can open files still.
>> How do I do the memory test if the USB ports and CD drive aren't working?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Karen
>>
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>> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 4:00 AM AEST linux-request at lists.samba.org wrote:
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>>> 1. Linux help needed please (Karen Yahoo)
>>> 2. Re: Linux help needed please (Paul Wayper)
>>> 3. Re: Linux help needed please (Alastair D'Silva)
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 03:35:04 -0700 (PDT)
>>> From: Karen Yahoo <kazzaajamm at yahoo.com.au>
>>> To: "linux at lists.samba.org" <linux at lists.samba.org>
>>> Subject: [clug] Linux help needed please
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>>> Hi all,
>>> ?
>>> A very kind friend of mine in NZ installed?Ubuntu
>>> Linux?on my laptop about 12mths ago when Windows died and he convinced me how
>>> awesome Linux?was to use.
>>> I have had no problems until just recently. The
>>> laptop keeps rebooting when I try to shut it down and the?wireless,usb ports,
>>> memory card slot?and cd/dvd drives have all stopped working.
>>> I have had some
>>> problems with the fan being quite noisy and the laptop running?a bit warm. Could
>>> these be linked to the problems?
>>> If I could I would take it back to my friend for
>>> help but he's in NZ, so he gave me?a link to your user group in hope that
>>> someone can offer some advice or mybe have a look at the laptop.
>>> I am happy to pay?someone who has time to work on
>>> the laptop.
>>> I would rather give it to someone here that
>>> actually knows what they're doing and if studying will need the money more than
>>> take it to a repair shop.
>>> ?
>>> Thank you
>>> Karen
>>> ?
>>> P.S I sent Paul a direct email and he suggested
>>> posting my questions in the mailing list.
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 21:04:03 +1000
>>> From: Paul Wayper <paulway at mabula.net>
>>> To: linux at lists.samba.org
>>> Subject: Re: [clug] Linux help needed please
>>> Message-ID: <506978A3.9070208 at mabula.net>
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>>> On 09/30/2012 08:35 PM, Karen Yahoo wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> A very kind friend of mine in NZ installed Ubuntu Linux on my laptop
>>> about 12mths ago when Windows died and he convinced me how awesome Linux
>>> was to use. I have had no problems until just recently. The laptop keeps
>>> rebooting when I try to shut it down and the wireless,usb ports, memory
>>> card slot and cd/dvd drives have all stopped working. I have had some
>>> problems with the fan being quite noisy and the laptop running a bit
>>> warm. Could these be linked to the problems?
>>>
>>> Hi Karen,
>>>
>>> My initial thought is that it might be a hardware failure - something on the
>>> motherboard may have gone bad and just lost connection with a whole range of
>>> onboard parts. Package upgrades in Linux don't normally cause anything like
>>> that (not in my eight years of using it, certainly). What is the make and
>>> model of the computer?
>>>
>>> In my experience if the laptop is overheating it can manifest in the entire
>>> machine locking up - it no longer responds to key presses, the same image is
>>> displayed, and the only way to un-wedge it is to hold the power button in.
>>> You're not getting anything like that?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
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>>>
>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 21:58:04 +1000
>>> From: "Alastair D'Silva" <alastair at d-silva.org>
>>> To: <paulway at mabula.net>, <linux at lists.samba.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [clug] Linux help needed please
>>> Message-ID: <006301cd9fcc$0445a3f0$0cd0ebd0$@d-silva.org>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> On 09/30/2012 08:35 PM, Karen Yahoo wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> A very kind friend of mine in NZ installed Ubuntu Linux on my laptop
>>>> about 12mths ago when Windows died and he convinced me how
>>> awesome
>>>> Linux was to use. I have had no problems until just recently. The
>>>> laptop keeps rebooting when I try to shut it down and the wireless,usb
>>>> ports, memory card slot and cd/dvd drives have all stopped working. I
>>>> have had some problems with the fan being quite noisy and the laptop
>>>> running a bit warm. Could these be linked to the problems?
>>>
>>> Hi Karen,
>>>
>>> My initial thought is that it might be a hardware failure - something on
>>> the
>>> motherboard may have gone bad and just lost connection with a whole
>>> range of onboard parts. Package upgrades in Linux don't normally cause
>>> anything like that (not in my eight years of using it, certainly). What
>>> is the
>>> make and model of the computer?
>>>
>>> In my experience if the laptop is overheating it can manifest in the
>>> entire
>>> machine locking up - it no longer responds to key presses, the same image
>>> is
>>> displayed, and the only way to un-wedge it is to hold the power button in.
>>> You're not getting anything like that?
>>>
>>> If you suspect hardware problems, there is a good chance they will show
>>> themselves as memory errors (or they may in fact be memory errors).
>>>
>>> My first port of call would be to burn to a CD (or write a USB key) with
>>> Memtest86+:
>>> http://www.memtest.org/#downiso
>>>
>>> This will take the OS out of the equation.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Alastair D'Silva mob: 0423 762 819
>>> twitter: evildeece msn: alastair at d-silva.org
>>> blog: http://alastair.d-silva.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>> linux at lists.samba.org
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>>>
>>> End of linux Digest, Vol 118, Issue 1
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>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 21:08:15 +1000
>> From: Lana Brindley <mail at lanabrindley.com>
>> To: linux at lists.samba.org
>> Subject: Re: [clug] Linux help needed please
>> Message-ID: <1349089699.2541.40.camel at T410>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>
>> On Mon, 2012-10-01 at 21:04 +1000, Paul Wayper wrote:
>>> On 09/30/2012 08:35 PM, Karen Yahoo wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> A very kind friend of mine in NZ installed Ubuntu Linux on my laptop
>>>> about 12mths ago when Windows died and he convinced me how awesome Linux
>>>> was to use. I have had no problems until just recently. The laptop keeps
>>>> rebooting when I try to shut it down and the wireless,usb ports, memory
>>>> card slot and cd/dvd drives have all stopped working. I have had some
>>>> problems with the fan being quite noisy and the laptop running a bit
>>>> warm. Could these be linked to the problems?
>>>
>>> Hi Karen,
>>>
>>> My initial thought is that it might be a hardware failure - something on the
>>> motherboard may have gone bad and just lost connection with a whole range of
>>> onboard parts. Package upgrades in Linux don't normally cause anything like
>>> that (not in my eight years of using it, certainly). What is the make and
>>> model of the computer?
>>>
>>> In my experience if the laptop is overheating it can manifest in the entire
>>> machine locking up - it no longer responds to key presses, the same image is
>>> displayed, and the only way to un-wedge it is to hold the power button in.
>>> You're not getting anything like that?
>>
>> Also: backup. Now.
>>
>> L
>>
>> --
>> Lana Brindley
>> writer:speaker:blogger
>> ------------------------------------------------
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>> unskilled in the arts of composition, I resolved to write a book.
>> -- Edward Gibbon (1737 - 1794)
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>>
>>
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>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 13:47:12 +1000
>> From: Kim Holburn <kim.holburn at gmail.com>
>> To: CLUG List <linux at lists.samba.org>
>> Subject: Re: [clug] Linux help needed please
>> Message-ID: <F77C7301-899C-44FF-BE68-0807F6E17B1B at gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>>
>> On 2012/Oct/01, at 9:58 PM, Alastair D'Silva wrote:
>>
>>> On 09/30/2012 08:35 PM, Karen Yahoo wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> A very kind friend of mine in NZ installed Ubuntu Linux on my laptop
>>>> about 12mths ago when Windows died and he convinced me how
>>> awesome
>>>> Linux was to use. I have had no problems until just recently. The
>>>> laptop keeps rebooting when I try to shut it down and the wireless,usb
>>>> ports, memory card slot and cd/dvd drives have all stopped working. I
>>>> have had some problems with the fan being quite noisy and the laptop
>>>> running a bit warm. Could these be linked to the problems?
>>>
>>> Hi Karen,
>>>
>>> My initial thought is that it might be a hardware failure - something on
>>> the
>>> motherboard may have gone bad and just lost connection with a whole
>>> range of onboard parts. Package upgrades in Linux don't normally cause
>>> anything like that (not in my eight years of using it, certainly). What
>>> is the
>>> make and model of the computer?
>>>
>>> In my experience if the laptop is overheating it can manifest in the
>>> entire
>>> machine locking up - it no longer responds to key presses, the same image
>>> is
>>> displayed, and the only way to un-wedge it is to hold the power button in.
>>> You're not getting anything like that?
>>>
>>> If you suspect hardware problems, there is a good chance they will show
>>> themselves as memory errors (or they may in fact be memory errors).
>>>
>>> My first port of call would be to burn to a CD (or write a USB key) with
>>> Memtest86+:
>>> http://www.memtest.org/#downiso
>>
>> That's not going to work if the USB and CD have stopped working. On the other hand ubuntu usually installs a grub entry for memtest. You could choose that.
>>
>> If the memory is bad then your operating system could well be stuffed, to use a technical term.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Kim Holburn
>> IT Network & Security Consultant
>> T: +61 2 61402408 M: +61 404072753
>> mailto:kim at holburn.net aim://kimholburn
>> skype://kholburn - PGP Public Key on request
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 14:41:02 +1000
>> From: Michael Still <mikal at stillhq.com>
>> To: Robert Edwards <bob at cs.anu.edu.au>
>> Cc: CLUG List <linux at lists.samba.org>
>> Subject: Re: [clug] Linux Conf 2013 Early Bird registrations are open
>> Message-ID: <506A705E.5090801 at stillhq.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>> On 10/02/2012 08:31 AM, Robert Edwards wrote:
>>
>>> (interesting that this announcement went out on Makers before CLUG...).
>>
>> Its not a plot. The Makers announcement was not sent by the LCA team, it
>> was sent by someone who was paying attention.
>>
>> We did a "soft launch" yesterday where we only told social media that we
>> were open, the theory being that if we experienced a problem we wouldn't
>> have to deal with as high a rate of incoming complaints as a more
>> general announcement would have caused.
>>
>> Now that we're sure everything is working right, you should see more
>> general announcements go out soon.
>>
>> Mikal
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 14:44:50 +1000
>> From: Michael Still <mikal at stillhq.com>
>> To: CLUG List <linux at lists.samba.org>
>> Subject: [clug] LCA2013 Earlybird Regos Now Open!
>> Message-ID: <506A7142.3060409 at stillhq.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>>
>> linux.conf.au 2013 earlybird tickets are now available! The conference
>> runs from 28 January to 2 February, at the Australian National
>> University in Canberra. We?re really excited about the conference, with
>> over 100 talks, 13 miniconferences, and a whole bunch of social
>> functions planned. You can see more details of the programme at
>> https://lca2013.linux.org.au/programme/schedule.
>>
>> Regos have only been open for a few hours, but we have already sold well
>> over the number of tickets we expected to. The number of early bird
>> tickets available is strictly limited, and at this stage we expect to
>> sell out extremely quickly. If you want the best price for your ticket
>> you are going to have to book and pay for it very soon.
>>
>> For prices, and all the info you need to register for the conference,
>> head to https://lca2013.linux.org.au/register/prices and we?ll see you
>> at the party!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Mikal
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 16:09:11 +1000
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>> To: "CLUG List" <linux at lists.samba.org>
>> Subject: [clug] Contract position available
>> Message-ID:
>> <2C8B3DA292C3544CB35D0B81FED1F5430E9BACCD at webmail.finite.com.au>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> I have a position available atm for a Linux / Red Hat Engineer with
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>> initially here in Canberra.
>>
>> Applicants must be Australian citizens and hold a current security
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>> Thanks
>>
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>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: linux-bounces at lists.samba.org
>> [mailto:linux-bounces at lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of Kim Holburn
>> Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2012 1:47 PM
>> To: CLUG List
>> Subject: Re: [clug] Linux help needed please
>>
>>
>> On 2012/Oct/01, at 9:58 PM, Alastair D'Silva wrote:
>>
>>> On 09/30/2012 08:35 PM, Karen Yahoo wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> A very kind friend of mine in NZ installed Ubuntu Linux on my laptop
>>>> about 12mths ago when Windows died and he convinced me how
>>> awesome
>>>> Linux was to use. I have had no problems until just recently. The
>>>> laptop keeps rebooting when I try to shut it down and the
>> wireless,usb
>>>> ports, memory card slot and cd/dvd drives have all stopped working.
>> I
>>>> have had some problems with the fan being quite noisy and the laptop
>>>> running a bit warm. Could these be linked to the problems?
>>>
>>> Hi Karen,
>>>
>>> My initial thought is that it might be a hardware failure - something
>> on
>>> the
>>> motherboard may have gone bad and just lost connection with a whole
>>> range of onboard parts. Package upgrades in Linux don't normally
>> cause
>>> anything like that (not in my eight years of using it, certainly).
>> What
>>> is the
>>> make and model of the computer?
>>>
>>> In my experience if the laptop is overheating it can manifest in the
>>> entire
>>> machine locking up - it no longer responds to key presses, the same
>> image
>>> is
>>> displayed, and the only way to un-wedge it is to hold the power
>> button in.
>>> You're not getting anything like that?
>>>
>>> If you suspect hardware problems, there is a good chance they will
>> show
>>> themselves as memory errors (or they may in fact be memory errors).
>>>
>>> My first port of call would be to burn to a CD (or write a USB key)
>> with
>>> Memtest86+:
>>> http://www.memtest.org/#downiso
>>
>> That's not going to work if the USB and CD have stopped working. On the
>> other hand ubuntu usually installs a grub entry for memtest. You could
>> choose that.
>>
>> If the memory is bad then your operating system could well be stuffed,
>> to use a technical term.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Kim Holburn
>> IT Network & Security Consultant
>> T: +61 2 61402408 M: +61 404072753
>> mailto:kim at holburn.net aim://kimholburn
>> skype://kholburn - PGP Public Key on request
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
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>> End of linux Digest, Vol 118, Issue 2
>> *************************************
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